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I'm developing a modest analytics applications and I'm facing a problem with identifying the plain Mozilla/SeaMonkey browser.
I mean, I can easily recognize Microsoft Internet Explorer, cause it says MSIE in the UA. Firefox says firefox/x.x and Opera says Opera x.x
But what about Mozilla? Some newer string says "SeaMonkey" on it, but older versions says nothing special to be identified.
How would you do it?
Safari developers thought it was genius to declare their browser as like "Gecko".
Then Google jumped in to the mess and thought it'd be genius to declare Chrome as Safari.
Also I may have missed one or two so I'd recommend creating a pattern sequencer that determines if there is a new user agent.
Lastly some genius thought making an extension for Firefox to spoof the user agent (based on the fact that Firefox's name has been changed) throws even more dirt in to the mess.
Safari developers thought it was genius to declare their browser as like "Gecko"
My assumption was that they simply copied it from Konqueror (upon which it was based).
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5) KHTML/3.5.9 (like Gecko)
As always, I am happy to be educated.
As I said earlier, testing for "Gecko/" should eliminate the KHTML browsers.
Thanks for the additions, researching them should keep me out of mischief for a while - though I found that some of the earlier list were unavailable for download (where references to them could be found at all).
I don't keep logs for all my sites but I have had a visit from Kazehakase:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:184.108.40.206) Gecko Kazehakase/0.5.4 Debian/0.5.4-2.1
Note the lack of slash and build date.
Perhaps the botsvsbrowsers website could be useful too
I'd be interested
OK I'll give have a shot at summing up:
Opera declares itself as Opera, or Opera Mini for the mobile version. No lizard mentioned.
We are not concerned with strings containing Mozilla unless they also contain Gecko.
Safari (desktop or mobile) and Konqueror say they are also KHTML (like Gecko).
Chrome, Android and Omniweb say they are also KHTML (like Gecko) and Safari.
iCab for OSX says it is also KHTML (like Gecko). The OS9 version is simply iCab.
NetFront is a mobile browser occasionally containing "like Gecko".
Firebird and Phoenix are old versions of Firefox, and all three admit to being Gecko.
Firefox says it is Firefox except when it is Deerpark, Minefield, Granparadiso or BonEcho (often a Yahoo bot).
Flock and Camino say they are Gecko and also contain Firefox in their string.
Seamonkey, Netscape, Epiphany, K-Meleon, Galeon, Iceweasel, Iceape, Webzebu, Thunderbird, Chimera, Amethyst, Ideal Browser, Sylera, ACommunicator, Amico Alpha, Foxybird, Kazehakase, Beonex, Skipstone, Songbird, Swiftweasel and OpenVMS all identify themselves and mention Gecko.
Anything else containing "Gecko/" and a version less than or equal to 1.7.13 is probably plain Mozilla.
Except that Mnenhy and (in some cases) Firesomething may be mentioned, indicating possible tampering.
And there could still be some exotic and obscure reptiles lurking in the undergrowth.
And anyone can change their user-agent easily, be they human or robot.
And the IP was from Websense, so UA was definitely spoofed anyway.
In reparation, here's a rare sighting of an undisguised Firesomething found in the wild:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-GB; rv:220.127.116.11) Gecko/20080404 Thunderlion/18.104.22.168
(All your Firefox/22.214.171.124 are belong to Firesomething)