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Repetitions of unrepeatable keyword phrases

Can't be real data, can it?

         

grigoroo

2:22 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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My analytics reports showed an unexplained large increase in traffic from Google search, but looking at the search terms it defies logic.

Most of my new traffic comes from multiples of terms that hadn't been searched in prior periods. Sure, that could happen, but not for some of them.

For example, the exact phrase "a painter paints pictures on canvas. but musicians paint their pictures on silence. ~leopold stokowski" was supposedly searched three times in the past two weeks. The chances of that being searched by three different people? Nil. Why would one person search a term that specific 3 times?

Another, "a heart of ice by ariadne president" was searched 3 times on one day.

And there's "lipstick on a pig audio" and "does margerine go bad" getting 4 and 3 respectively.

Mine is a social networking site for artists and writers so almost anything could appear on the site, but not multiples of these searches.

Need I say more. Does anyone have an idea what's happening here?

IanTurner

2:41 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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No idea what's happening but odd phrases being searched over again could be from people having recovered a session in their browser - latest version of Firefox certainly allow you to restore the sessin if Firefox locks up or your machine restarts following an update.

Secondly - spammers seem to be ripping unusual phrases out of sites and using them as Spam Titles, if this is done it could lead to a spate of searches on an unusual phrase.

IanTurner

2:43 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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P.S. Wasn't 'lipstick on a pig' a recent quote by Barack Obama.

grigoroo

3:31 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Okay, maybe "lipstick on a pig" might have gotten a bit of play on that day, but I got all my hits on "lipstick on a pig audio". No hits on "lipstick on a pig video" which is just as possible on my site.

I searched my site for "lipstick on a pig" and found nothing. Audio is very common on the site.

grigoroo

3:51 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Ian,

The Firefox answer is interesting and a possibility, but it would mean that an awful lot of restarts are happening for people visiting my site, something that doesn't seem likely, especially when these recurrences aren't all on a single day.

The spam idea might make sense, but I didn't bother to mention a lot of simple keywords and phrases that appeared a lot, but seem to be nearly as unusual in their frequency.

Additionally, this statistical anomaly was common to the more popular search engines, although Google was most guilty. Compared to a seemingly untainted period in July, Google traffic was up 1079%. Yahoo was up 173% and AOL was up 259%. From AOL we got 16 hits on "a1a43c0236c914bcb851d1a899a9faaa" over 3 consecutive days. Got an answer for that one?

jimbeetle

3:53 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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...supposedly searched three times in the past two weeks. The chances of that being searched by three different people? Nil. Why would one person search a term that specific 3 times?

There could be many simple stupid reasons: interruptions, forgot they already clicked on that result, didn't note the site and wanted to find it again, showing the result to a friend.

User search behavior doesn't always appear logical at first glance, some queries the same. One of my sites gets repeated referrals from very specific long-tail queries similar to your example quite often. Turns out folks are usually trying to find answers for the New York Times crossword puzzle.

grigoroo

4:17 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Maybe so, but that particular keyword phrase showed up on Sept. 5th, 9th and 15th. We can find an explanation that works for one or more of these, but the explanation needs to work for most of them given that there is a distinct pattern of increased traffic that needs to be explained. Some of these happened close together and some happened days apart. All happened in the past few weeks.

IanTurner

4:54 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Personally I can leave tabs in my firefox profiles for months, let alone 10 days.

grigoroo

5:01 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Well, sure, if she's really pretty. But on a search term like "a1a43c0236c914bcb851d1a899a9faaa"?

IanTurner

5:57 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Agree those really strange search terms are somewhat of a mystery.

epistable

7:15 pm on Sep 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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There's an old thread on the weird aol keywords here:
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grigoroo

10:03 pm on Sep 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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This issue is continuing for us. More analysis hasn't resolved the cause. It isn't a problem only with Google search engine. Same anamolies show up on others, like Lycos and Search.com.

Keyword phrase "poetry writers" gets 20+ visits over a week, all coming from one city, most going to our home page where this phrase would not occur. The visits are not identical.

A similar pattern is keying off the name of our COO whose name appears only on the About Us page. He may have searched on his own name once, but it shows repeatedly, and stats indicate it is coming from our office and his, the only Mac, computer in the office. It too is almost exclusively landing on our home page where his name has never appeared.

Too bizarre for words.

blend27

7:37 pm on Sep 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

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How about someone just searches G for something(pig on a lipstick for example), visits your site and then sends the G URL via email or IM to a friend?

D-Web Blend27

grigoroo

8:24 pm on Sep 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

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That can't answer very many of the occurrences. What about when all the visits via our COO's name as keyword, coming from his Mac, yet he hasn't touched the Mac all day and certainly hasn't searched for his own name? And if he did, there is no link in G results that go to the home page where GA says they went, not to mention when it happens on Yahoo search too, which he doesn't use.

We added code from Hitlink that does not agree with GA, so we'll be taking this to G if we can find anyone there who is interested. The initial inquiry I sent to them lost their interest when they saw that it was GA problem and not click fraud. They said they'd pass it along and we MIGHT hear from someone.

caribguy

12:13 am on Sep 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would certainly want to correlate something like what you're experiencing with my raw server logs...

Ended up finding that operators of other sites in my segment were doing some competitive analysis.

Marcia

3:46 am on Sep 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Side point: Google can(and does) return results for queries even if none of the pages returned include all of the words used. Other things aside, the phrase "lipstick on a pig audio" makes perfect sense; for one, audio is related to and co-occurs a lot with video on the same pages, and the phrase "lipstick on a pig video" would have had a lot of searches for it. But that wouldn't be the case if there's nothing on a site anyplace for lipstick or pig.

grigoroo

2:52 pm on Sep 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Here's a new one: According to GA, over the weekend a search term appeared 11 times visiting 6 different pages on the site. I identified the one place on the site where the term exists so I know how and where it might appear when searched. One of the places "visited" could easily have shown the term. Another might have, but the remaining 4 could not possibly be a place where the term could have appeared, and those 4 represented 9 of the 11 visits.