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Wisenut Update

It must be months 9 months but they have actually done it!

         

indigojo

9:41 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Finally they have updated their databases, maybe the sign of the rumoured 4 billion to come.

mfagan

11:24 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ah, you beat me by a little.

The previous database had no listings for my site or mentions about it. Now over 100 pages from my domain.

rubble88

1:41 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Whether or not the database of pages got bigger is an issue that will take some time to determine. Very likely it did,

However, after some quick and dirty searching I still find a old and out of date database, in many cases over 4 months old. Not very impressive.

Here are a few examples.

1) Mankato Free Press (newspaper)
Last Update: May 14, 2002
[wisenut.com...]

2) PDA Buzz
Last Update: Friday, May 10 2002
www.pdabuzz.com

3) Newsweek
Last Update: Friday, May 10, 2002
www.msnbc.com/news/NW-front_Front.asp

4) Cable DataaComm News
Last Update: May, 2002
www.cabledatacomnews.com/

5) Bay Journal (newspaper)
Last Update: April, 2002
www.bayjournal.com/

6) Worth Magazine
Last Update June 2002
(most likely this issue was placed online in May)
www.worth.com/

7) Costal Post News (newspaper)
Last Update: May, 2002

8) DAWN (a major newspaper in Pakistan)
Last Update: May 3, 2002

Also, on another note WiseNut truncates searches after 7 terms are entered into the search box. This is compared to Googles 10 and AlltheWeb's 15+ (I think it might be unlimited).

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andreasfriedrich

2:04 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I LOVE Wisenut! For each and every keyword my parentīs site is in the top 5. Now all I need to do is get surfers to actually use Wisenut...

And itīs so slow. Amazing how one has come to expect the speed of Google...

nancyb

3:51 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you indigojo for posting about this update!

I went to check out wisenut to see where I was listed and was flabberghasted :o to see my old ISP site listed there under some other domain name. 102 pages, in fact.

Have contacted the ISP already but no one is there now to actually tell me how this could happen. I called the owner of the actual domain and he told me that the domain has been inactive as a website for 16-18 months.

Anyone know how to get a site removed from wisenut? - and fast - before google thinks I've another mirror site. aaarrrggghhhh!

jdMorgan

4:12 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Unbelievable, they did update! Finally dropped my 9-months dead domain, too.

I have to agree with andreasfriedrich, though - I hope to see some referals (I've got good placement in the SERPs), but I'm not really expecting a flood of visitors from WN... And yeah, not very fast results.

Jim

Jillibert

4:47 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)



Rubble............each of those links you show actually take you to todays results?

It does seem slow but good to see it up and running and delivering fresh results.

Beachboy

5:43 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm with jdMorgan on this one...unbelievable! And I thought WN was the poster child for stale SERPs. And I must admit that WN has treated my sites very favorably, which is nice. Bloody shame nobody uses it. Yet. ;)

From what I can tell, the results are a lot more sensible than those from alltheweb.com. This is excellent progress. Google definitely needs quality competition. There is work yet to be done, but I am impressed.

rubble88

10:46 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Jillibert:
You are incorrect. Look at the last time the page was crawled and indexed by typing in the name of the web site name or url. This is determined by the date in the title of the search engine result.

For example,
Type Newsweek into the Wisenut search box.

Then, look at the date stamp on the link for
[msnbc.com...]

Although clicking on Newsweek will return the "current" page the underlying data was last crawled on 5/10/2002

rfgdxm1

12:56 pm on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>However, after some quick and dirty searching I still find a old and out of date database, in many cases over 4 months old. Not very impressive.

Right. If this were the end of June, and we were comparing Wisenut to Google after the June dance, we might have some comparison. While Wisenut is now something like at least 5 months fresher than it used to be, it is still pretty stale.

Their SERPs on some quick checks seems to be so-so. Could be better, but could also be worse. Wisenut doesn't seem to have much in the way of their own version of PageRank, or other way of determining more popular pages. For example, on one main keyword for me, a post made by someone on an obscure website message board comes up #2. And, some service with a Usenet web interface was spidered, causing one of *my* Usenet posts to show up as #8, while my website is #10. Thus it seems to me the ranking is solely based according to on the page analysis, and not ranking pages by importance.

indigojo

10:31 pm on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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They've switched back to the old outdated index now.

crobb305

11:57 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Someone enlighten me. What is the big deal about Wisenut? I have some top listings they have never sent me a single visitor; all of my traffic is from Google, Inktomi, and Looksmart Network. Also, my listing in Wisenut hasn't been updated in at least 6 months (based on the title/desc there).

indigojo

5:43 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well we had one page listed in wisenut for the last 9 months which pointed to an under construction page from some 18 months ago. There has recently been an update which for us better reflects our site and we now have a heap of content in there which i might add is still outdated and looks like stuff crawled 6 months ago.

It has not generated any traffic as of yet so yes a bit pointless. The only thing I think that may be interesting is relates to this early thread about Wisenut changing their look. [webmasterworld.com...]

To my mind they are going to incorporate Wisenut into Looksmart soon as Wisenut SERP's look so Looksmart branded. Then it will get more interesting.

Probably also a good contingency plan watching Google's competitors as we never know what or who we will be talking about in 2 years time. Wisenut did originally tout itself to be incredibly scaleable in the beginning as well, whether this was true or not I don't know.

Figures of 4 and 5 billion were thrown around.

Finder

5:52 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've seen Wisenut's bot in the log file as recently as this week, but the pages listed in their db are all old -- from May of this year at the latest. I'm surprised at how high I'm listed in the results page (first for some searches!) since I'm buried at most other engines.

WebGuerrilla

7:02 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>Someone enlighten me. What is the big deal about Wisenut?

Wisenut has been dormant since they were aquired by Looksmart. Now, all of a sudden, they've fired up the spiders and they are aggresively crawling the web.

That is an indication that they may have some new partner deals in the works. So, while it's true that they don't send anyone traffic today, that could change rather quickly if they come up with some distribution partners for their shiny new database.