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Google search alternatives face one big roadblock

         

brotherhood of LAN

5:48 am on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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[fastcompany.com...]
A new search engine needs an index of the web. And many sites don’t welcome any web crawler that isn’t Google or Bing.

engine

11:48 am on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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That's a minor hurdle, imho. If it was a trustworthy search I think it would just need time to build a database. It took google years to get as far as it did.

Brett_Tabke

12:07 pm on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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So Neeva, wants to build and index, then put that index behind a paywall and charge for it? What do webmasters get out of it?

lucy24

2:38 pm on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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You get visitors who are willing to pay for something they can easily get for free. In certain types of business, that is surely the clientele of your dreams.

Brett_Tabke

2:59 pm on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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But to start, there is zero traffic and only the vague promise that some day there 'might be' traffic. And if they are backfilling with Bing anyway, why would I let their crawler abuse my site?

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3:08 pm on May 26, 2022 (gmt 0)

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How much longer can it say it's a startup? Ex Googler Sets Up "Neeva" Subscription-Based Search [webmasterworld.com] June 2020

nevabot [webmasterworld.com]

Subs just aren't going to work in the vast majority of instances, primarily because most people just search but don't even think about the consequences.

brotherhood of LAN

9:27 am on May 27, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I thought Brave's statement of abiding by Googlebot's robots.txt rules and using data centers with an unidentified UA (anecdotally, a Chrome UA) would be the most contentious for webmasters. Understandable why they would of course, given the article.

Facebook is probably one of the best examples, they do allow a good number of crawlers in but all other unnamed UAs are locked out.

tangor

10:00 am on May 27, 2022 (gmt 0)

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The day search engine wannabees pay to index a site things will change. Until then we're stuck with what we've got. Sigh.

Brett_Tabke

12:05 am on May 28, 2022 (gmt 0)

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> search engine wannabees pay to index

Hey, Google is paying news sites for content - anything is possible.

brotherhood of LAN

8:21 am on Jun 4, 2022 (gmt 0)

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>pay to index

Not quite the same, but Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs [yep.com]

People here will be very familiar with their bot...