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DMOZ penalties

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TC_MAT

6:32 pm on Sep 12, 2001 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



My first time here, and my question gets back to my problem of either being penalize or how to get
my site index again. I may have submitted my site a number of times during a period of three weeks time. This was way then about over six months ago. The first time it was submitted was surprise to me to see my site listed in Goo, HB, Lycos, Go Mamma, among the few in just a very short time. But problem was, it had the main title of the site as being "NO TITLE".
Frantic then, I did correct this by re-submitting but then realized that it was no longer listed after. I tried to re-submit it on a daily basis for a week or two weeks. That was sometime five months ago.

Question is, after a few months after, it was only over two months ago that I again submitted my site but however see no posting of my site in any SE's. I wrote an apology letter to a DMOZ editor assuming that I was penalized or better yet blocklisted, a very polite one that is! This was about the same time (two months ago)! Nevertheless, receive NO response back from DMOZ
editor and on top of that still not index.

Any advise to get it index again? Or should I make a second attempt writing to a different editor than the first one? Is there any time table
regarding penalties and get some consideration.
Or what about input on other ways to get in!

Well, I can surely use any good advise...

Thanks in advance

Black Knight

2:15 am on Sep 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



If this was the same site that is in your user profile, my advice is to change hosts.

There are two reasons for that advice:

The first is that it will change your IP address and thus may help.

The second and more important is that I have been waiting for over a minute for your site to open from the link on your profile. I'm on a T1 line. If a spider EVER gets a delay like that when trying to access your site, then it will be dropped immediately - no question.

Perhaps you had forewarning that your site would be inaccessible? If so, well, these things do have to happen occassionally, let it slide. However if you were not forewarned, then who knows how often this has happened before. Get another host.

TC_MAT

4:37 pm on Sep 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



First, I do not know exactly how you manage
to link thru my site since I never mentioned
the site url.
And nothing to do as well with any link from
my profile. It is actually an e-commerce. I have seen sites more slower than mine! The site is accessible thru AV. And from there,
The site still have a title as "NO TITle".
And I learned that it is index by another
which is "Sleepy Shopper". But, realistically
it has nothing to do with DMOZ or maybe it does. But who knows! And getting back to my
previous questions whether or not I should
re-submit, write another DMOZ editor,how long
before penalty is lifted, what about Inktomi.
Anyway, I appreciate the help and more help if possible.
Thanks

>If this was the same site that is in your user profile, my advice is to change hosts.
There are two reasons for that advice:

The first is that it will change your IP address and thus may help.

The second and more important is that I have been waiting for over a minute for your site to open from the link on your profile. I'm on a T1 line. If a spider EVER gets a delay like that when trying to access your site, then it will be dropped immediately - no question.

Marcia

5:11 am on Sep 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>If a spider EVER gets a delay like that when trying to access your site, then it will be dropped immediately - no question.

BK, it's not the host itself. I've got sites in that C-class, they're Alabanza leased boxes and have never had a slow loading problem, even with a graphics site (for which I still watch the total page size). They've been crawled regularly and rank just fine. If it's an over-submitting problem, that's a different story, but the load time issue will still be a factor.

Here are the figures for the profile site:

Total WebPage Size 59,025 (bytes)
Visible Text Size 7,112 (bytes)
Size of HTML Tags 51,913 (bytes)
Text to HTML Ratio 12.54%
Number of Images 48
Largest Image Size 895,340 (bytes)
Size of All Images 1,368,708 (bytes)
Grand Total:
Images+Html= 1,427,733 (bytes)

Optimum total page size is 30K - that's the ideal.

>no posting of my site in any SE's

TC_MAT, if we can assume that the site in question is of the same design as the profile site, it is multiple times what search engine spiders can handle.

And if the design is the same, with the same load time, neither will any editor wait. You are, of course, free to re-submit if you choose.

>NO response back from DMOZ

This is not unusual, some categories are backed up and they're volunteers, some with a huge workload.