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Disney may (update: WILL) abandon GO.com

The Mouse that bailed

         

Jaguar_Joe

5:27 am on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



Article in Financial Times here [news.ft.com].

tedster

6:52 am on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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If Walt had that attitude, the world might never have enjoyed Mickey Mouse.

"Lookee here, we gotta make a profit in the first quarter or the mouse goes!"

grnidone

3:15 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



So is Go gonna go? Can they go back to standing on their own?

-G

rcjordan

5:44 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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"The advertising community has abandoned the internet," said Michael Eisner, group chairman and chief executive. "If a portal becomes only a search [engine] and directory, then a portal may not be what we want."

Let me translate that quote into WebmasterWorldspeak....
GO.com, put your head between your knees and kiss your butt goodbye.

msgraph

6:09 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>"If a portal becomes only a search [engine] and directory, then a portal may not be what we want."

So they finally realized that throwing so much garbage in portal form just doesn't work that well. Everyone goes straight to the search box. They should have learned from Altavista's mistakes when they dumped so much effort into their portal.

Edited by: msgraph

rcjordan

6:21 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Portal? No, I can't see GO making it.... but I thought they'd be able to pull off a travel and tourism vortal.

engine

6:29 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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So sad, so very, very sad.
<RIP>
INFOSEEK - WE'LL REMEMBER
</RIP>

Laisha

6:37 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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We saw THAT coming, huh? I've been telling clients for about 2 months, "They appear to be turning into an entertainment portal and aren't going to be important for long."

This is what happens when you have a CEO and staff who is not internet-savvy. While Mr. Eisner is very good at what he does, he does not do the Internet and doesn't understand the nuances of marketing on the web.

The same happened to bluelight.com (K-Mart): They had a headstart, having beat Walmart and Target into the online market, but showed stupendous lack of foresight when they said, "We aren't going to focus on the online presence or the search engines." What a shame. :(

They are, however, in good company. The well-touted CEO of GE did something similar in 1993 when they had an online service called GEnie. Prodigy led the market, then GEnie, followed by an also-ran called "AOL." GE closed GEnie, saying that they would rather focus on their money-making properties.

"M-I-C -- C ya real soon"
"K-E-Y -- Why? Because we're clueless!"
"M-O-U-S-E" :)

Edited by: Laisha

mivox

7:08 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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There's a definite trend of huge corporations adding "internet properties" to their company's operations and then completely blowing it... GE knows lightbulbs and electrical appliances REAL well, but missed the boat with that newfangled internet thingie.

I remember a while ago (couple years) when my ex-husband suggested doing a pay-for-preferred-ranking site to me. "Build a big directory, promote it like hell, and then offer people better listings for $$"

"That's stupid," I said, "nobody's going to PAY for a search engine/directory listing when they can get them for free!"

Lack of foresight is a common trait in humans.

tedres

7:51 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



Go.com has been a huge mess for some time now. Talk about a kitchen sink interface! A non-standard layout might work for some, but this one seems maximized for ads and partnerships, not usability.

Trying to create a portal based on house brands and advertising is problematic at best. Any search for Entertainment topics results in huge ads for Mr Showbiz. Ditto for Sports and ESPN. What ads would GO.com be willing to sell to independent entertainment or sports sites, and who would buy ads there given the range of other choices?

msgraph

8:11 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Update:

Disney WILL abandon Go.com

story here [news.excite.com]

littleman

8:40 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



Infoseek was a great search engine, probably the best at one time.

msgraph

8:44 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Yes! Back when you could submit your site, they would crawl immediately, and index it a few hours later.

JK_Bowman

8:45 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



Here is a related story at MSN

[msnbc.com...]

NFFC

8:45 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Wow!

Will they just close and let it die?

What happens to the Go Guides and the work they have put in?

Will anyone admit to paying the $199 for "express spidering"?

rcjordan

8:53 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>What happens to the Go Guides

They didn't get much time to put their head between their knees, did they?

grnidone

8:55 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



It'd be kinda cool if InfoSeek was brought back by volunteers, but I can't see that happening.

-G

JK_Bowman

9:20 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



What I can not understand is why they would just shut it down.

If even in a firesale, it seems that it would have made more sense to sell it to someone else. But I guess when you have the kind of money that Disney does - you can do just about anything you want.

tedres

9:26 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



What are the assets they have to sell and who would buy them?

grnidone

10:33 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)



What will be interesting is if we see infoseek's spider in our logs after Go is dead and gone. I know it won't happen...but what if...That'll really bake our noodles.

-G

Brett_Tabke

10:57 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Another one from CNN:

[cnnfn.cnn.com]

*sniff*

I loved Infoseek in it's big days of 97...man what an engine.

mivox

11:07 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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[NFCC: What happens to the Go Guides and the work they have put in?]

Well, I signed up a while ago, just to submit my own sites. It all seemed a bit to commercial for my tastes, so I didn't personally put much time into it. Who knows, maybe DMOZ will have an influx of new volunteers?

Sad, my company site is #1 in a few categories at Go, and we've gotten consistent traffic from them. I knew things were going downhill though, when they debuted the "new look" and took the directory drill-down menu off the front page. What's the point of maintaining a directory, if NONE of your site visitors can find the interface for it?

WebRookie

11:12 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Really a shame, Infoseek had a lot to offer.

rcjordan

11:17 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>What happens to the Go Guides and the work they have put in?

I've opened a Go Guide Refugee Camp down in FOO, somewhere they can get some shelter and a decent post.

JamesR

11:34 pm on Jan 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

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The news is surprising...I just started hearing radio ads for them and thinking, "Way to market volunteer help!"

gmiller

12:19 am on Jan 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Some of the articles indicated that they'd try to sell off the Infoseek search stuff... Anybody want to chip in with me?

Hrm... maybe Disney should recast itself as an online board game company. They could buy the Internet Go Server and move it to the go.com domain.

JamesR

1:02 am on Jan 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Great banner Brett! First time I have clicked on one of those in a long time. Who said banner ads were dead?

eljefe3

2:08 am on Jan 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>>Great banner Brett! First time I have clicked on one of those in a long time. Who said banner ads were dead?

Heck, I clicked on it before anything else. Saw there was a hyoperlink to a fourm and jumped straight in.

Darn...I was just pulling a mivox and submitting my own sites and getting good rankings in the GO directory!

mivox

3:17 am on Jan 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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hmmm.... "pulling a mivox" meaning being an utterly self-serving member of a doomed online "community"? Hopefully my reputation won't suffer as a result of this new phrase... By submitting only my own sites, at least I was certain all my submissions were of the highest possible quality! ;)

I just looked through my referrer logs, and found that Go.com was running a VERY close second to Yahoo... *snif*

PeteU

3:23 am on Jan 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I confess first banner I hit in months :)
someone asked what their assets are? hmm, wouldn't that be the traffic they are receiving, still sizeable by any measures, what they'll do with it will show how dumb/smart they are..
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