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3:24 pm on Jan 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Wiki search is now online.

[wikiseek.com...]

About Wikiseek

The contents of Wikiseek are restricted to Wikipedia pages and only those sites which are referenced within Wikipedia, making it an authoritative source of information less subject to spam and SEO schemes.

Wikiseek utilizes Searchme's category refinement technology, providing suggested search refinements based on user tagging and categorization within Wikipedia, making results more relevant than conventional search engines.

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12:05 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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WikiSeek or seekwiki.. maybe Google will finally downplay Wikipedia in the results once they realize they are a future competitor.
1:20 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"Interesting, only listing sites linked to already from Wikipedia."

Only listing SOME sites already in wikipedia. The results are terrible, but especially terrible when you see only some sites linked in the wikipedia are included.

404: [wikiseek.com...]
200: [wikiseek.com...]

5:20 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"Wikiseek is an independent project with no affiliation with Wikia or Wikipedia."
5:54 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Remove this from the home page for God's sake!
6:05 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The results certainly suck ass.

But what you have to notice is that their homepage couldn't look more like Google.

They are gunning for Google between the eyes.

If they can clean up their SERPs and tap into the UNBELIVEABLE SERP referral traffic they have, they will be able to contend with Google.

They are over-extended at the moment, however.

They just did a stage dive that no one is catching.

6:32 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If they can clean up their SERPs and tap into the UNBELIVEABLE SERP referral traffic they have, they will be able to contend with Google.

But don't forget that UNBELIVEABLE SERP referral traffic comes precisely from Google!
Couldn't google just drop them from the SERPS if they represent a danger?

8:09 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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A search for term CMMI returns following


Refine by category

Error: Could not retrieve Suggestions. Please try your search again.
WARNING: The Server timed out while processing your request.

This can happen when the query contains a large number of words.

Please try your search again, or reduce the number of terms in the query.

9:55 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi! The ads certainly seem to be Googles - in the code there's the good old "pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js". How do they show them with out the "ads by google" text - I thought all of Google's sponsored results did that? Or is this something about being on the search network instead of the content network?
2:35 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Interesting concept.

It could be a winner (not at the magnitude of any of the Big 3, but making a tidy profit for the owner), if they were to include ALL of the content on ALL of the sites that are linked to from Wikipedia, and if they can develop algorithms that allow them to give the right amount of weight to content on those external sites that is in documents that aren't directly linked to by Wikipedia.

Under this scenario, they would simply be using Wikipedia as a zero-cost method for filtering out pure Spam and garbage -- the sort of sites that will never have permanent links from Wikipedia.

The SERPS would look vastly different than what is currently being displayed, or what is displayed by Wikipedia's internal search function. The results would be much more inclusive and interesting -- going far beyond the content of Wikipedia itself, or the documents that are one click away from Wikipedia, without including much spam.

Of course, this approach would have a strong bias against commercial sites, but that isn't necessarily a problem. In fact, it would enhance the PPC business model, making a purer distinction between non-commercial results down the left and commercial results down the right, and that clean distinction might be appealing to users.

However, this NOT what they are doing right now. The claim is made that Wikiseek also indexes all websites which are linked from WP, not just pages from WP, but this is not accurate.

I'm aware of some links to a couple of our sites that come from pages devoted to some very obscure topics. In these instances, our content was used as a primary source for Wikipedia's short writeup of the topic. Yet when I tried searching for these obscure terms, our sites did not appear anywhere in the first several pages of SERPs.

Clearly, something is broken, or they aren't actually doing what is claimed.

4:42 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"I have worked with many charities in the UK, how would you feel about an employee of a "charity" being paid a salary of 1m sterling per annum? It happens at one of the UK's largest charities."

This is what it takes to attract the best talent.

Check out CharityNavigator.org. The majority of established, efficient charities pay their CEOs high salaries.

6:19 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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No, Wikiseek also indexes all websites which are linked from WP, not just pages from WP...

Niet... no. Wiki links to one of my sites and I don't appear on the new search engine...

7:28 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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1. Again, Wikiseek apparently has no connection to the Wikimedia Foundation.

2. They state that they're donating "the majority" of the site's "revenue" (suggesting gross income, not net profits) to the Wikimedia Foundation. But the parent company, Searchme, is a venture-funded organization, so you can bet that there's an anticipation of big profits somewhere somehow.

3. It's in beta. It only launched like yesterday. I don't necessarily think it's a world-beating idea, but you have to cut them some slack with respect to minor bugs or not having indexed everything yet.

8:43 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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if they were to include ALL of the content on ALL of the sites that are linked to from Wikipedia,...

...they would have to include ALL of the geocities, youtube, myspace, blogspot, amazon...

6:36 am on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Is this the real thing? Or just something that someone has put together to take advantage of the hype?

Regards...jmcc

6:58 am on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just something that someone has put together to take advantage of the hype.
1:28 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Wikiseek is not the real thing SearchWikia is the real thing.

[search.wikia.com ]

They just bought the servers for Search_Wikia, so don't expect a launch for a while.

To many wiki names that sound the same. Total confusion, or should i say wikifusion :)

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