New to submitting new sites to search engines

[Compworld]

I've submitted my new sites to Google, DMOZ, and Yahoo, but it seems that all of the other ones charge a fee for to submit a site to their engine. Are there any other free engines/directories that I could submit to in order to get my site indexed within their indexes w/o having to pay a fee or jump through hoops?

Thanks,

CompWorld

[keywordguru]

The very best way to get indexed fast, mostly in terms of google, is to have many links coming from other sites pointing to yours. Every time those sites get spidered, it will then read your link on their site and add your site to the list to get spidered. The more links on other sites pointing to you, the more google will love your site too.
I wouldn't worry too much about the other engines rather than google, msn, and yahoo. I always find that the others tend to follow after I do my work with these three.

KG

[itwebxpert]

keywordguru,

I very new to website submission. I have sumitted my website to yahoo, google and msn for free, but my website has never appeared on the page.

I have many links from other websites hosted in almost every page of my website. Is it what you mean "links coming from other sites pointing to your site"?

Could you please explain what is wrong with my website?

Thank you in advance.

[itwebxpert]

keywordguru,

I very new to website submission. I have sumitted my website to yahoo, google and msn for free, but my website has never appeared on the page.

I have many links from other websites hosted in almost every page of my website. Is it what you mean "links coming from other sites pointing to your site"?

Could you please explain what is wrong with that submission?

Thank you in advance.

[keywordguru]

Hey itwebxpert,
what I mean is that you must get your link on other sites. For instance, directories are a good start. Submit your URL to different directories that relate to your website. Then when the spider goes to these sites, it will find your link and then spider yours.

Submitting for free is best. To check if you are in google, simply search site:http://www.yourdomain.com and it should show the links that it has for your site.

Good luck
KG

[itwebxpert]

Thanks for your prompt response, keywordguru.

Until recently, I have submitted my site to the following free search engines and directories:

1. yahoo
2. google
3. MSN
3. ODP
4. CrawlWave
5. Jayde
6. Mamma

But my site still does not appear? It has not been listed or indexed at all! Can you give me some ideas? Supposely I use correct key words!

Cheers

[sem4u]

ODP is the only directory on your list that passes PR. You are probably not even listed on there yet as it can take ages to get in.

You need to ask other webmasters to exchange links with your site - you can offer a recirprocal link in return. Without links to your site you will not be indexed by the search engines.

[itwebxpert]

Hi sem4u,

Sorry I am very new to the Terms in here. What you mean PR?

Yes, I have listed my URL in ODP, and resubmitted it today too. It appears in Google when I checked today as suggested by keywordguru.

In your view, i need to give my URL to other WebMaster in order for them to put my URL in their website and vice versa?

Who is going to host our URL for free?

Please explain a bit detail.

Cheers

[Good_Vibes]

My site is in Google, Yahoo and others (and it has been for months), but it is not in MSN!?!

When I do a search for mydomain.com nothing comes up.
How can I get my site into MSN's web search results?

[Compworld]

I liked them to my flagship site which has a PR 8. Hopefully, they will be indexed within the next couple of weeks. As towards new sites with no site to fall back on, it can take months to be crawled. Whatever you do, don't join a link farm. Your site will be penalized instead of added.

CompWorld

[sem4u]

OK I will try and answer a few of the questions.

What you mean PR?

PR stands for Page Rank. It is Google's way of calculating the importance of a webpage on a scale of 1-10. Download the Google toolbar to view the values.

Yes, I have listed my URL in ODP, and resubmitted it today too.

If you are listed in the ODP there is no need to re-submit. The same goes for any search engines.

For links you need to request these from other webmasters, possibly in exchange for a link on your site. Many webmasters will be willing to do this. Others will not. More link building techniques can be found in the Link Development forum here.

As towards new sites with no site to fall back on, it can take months to be crawled.

Signature links in heavily crawled forums can help here.

[jdMorgan]

> If you are listed in the ODP there is no need to re-submit.

Do not re-submit to ODP unless you have changed your domain name or made *big and important* changes to your site that would make it belong in a different ODP category. Re-submitting may result in your site being removed from the directory during the time it takes to review your new submission, and that time could be months. Don't annoy the category editors at ODP with repeated submissions, it is not a good idea at all.

Jim

[itwebxpert]

Let's say I submit my website to a few search engines. One day, luckily, my website appears on a search page. How can we know my website appears in the result of what search engine?

Cheers

[Compworld]

Run a link check.

CompWorld

[Lorel]

Hi itwebxpert

Yes, I have listed my URL in ODP, and resubmitted it today too. It appears in Google when I checked today as suggested by keywordguru.

"site:www.yourdomainname.com" only indicates how many of your pages google has indexed, i.e., in it's database, not the links it has recorded coming into your site.

In your view, i need to give my URL to other WebMaster in order for them to put my URL in their website and vice versa?

This will only work if those web sites have a good PR (Position Rank of 4 or more) and the higher the better.

You can either use the Google tool bar to find sites with PR 4 and above or if you have an older Mac like myself, go to the google Directory and search for a category that you would like to request links from and note the PR (little green bar on left side of page).

We used to be able to input link:www.yourdomainname.com into Google and get backlinks (links coming into a site) but it isn't working like it used to now. try allinurl:www.yourdomainname.com and it will provide all the sites that have your URL listed.

Yes, I have listed my URL in ODP, and resubmitted it today too.

Don't resubmit to ODP. I found out the hard way when ODP was having problems last year that when you resubmit then your submission may start over in the Queque, i.e., at the bottom or get thrown out by an overworked ODP editor.

Let's say I submit my website to a few search engines. One day, luckily, my website appears on a search page. How can we know my website appears in the result of what search engine?

Get a good site meter that provides referral links. Get one that provides the link of the search. Then you can just click on the link and it takes you right to that particular search engine and you can see how high your site ranked for those keywords.

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For Good_Vibes;

My site is in Google, Yahoo and others (and it has been for months), but it is not in MSN!?!

When I do a search for mydomain.com nothing comes up.
How can I get my site into MSN's web search results?

Go here.
[submitit.bcentral.com...]

MSN doesn't promise to accept submissions so if your site doesn't appear after their specified time then resubmit.

Lorel,