AlltheWeb is so much better than Google!

[grasso]

Today I searched for "Grasso", my nickname. Alltheweb returns my website on the third position just after the leading manufacturer for industrial refrigerators which also happens to be called Grasso. When I promote my website on forum, guestbooks, mailing lists, I use my nickname. I do a lot in all streets and corners of the internet. Alltheweb recognizes that. But Google lists my website on the thirty-eightest position. Google only goes for PageRank (TM) and does not care for contextual proximity. Google is a lock-up.

[digitalv]

PageRank has nothing to do with your position in the search engines for any given keyword. That little green bar is nothing more than a measure of how many sites link to you and how high or low it is has no influence on where you rank in the results.

[sidyadav]

> AlltheWeb is so much better than Google

You mean Yahoo don't ya? (ATW got replaced by Yahoo! months ago... - no longer it's own.)

Sid

[grasso]

I have some ingoing links, but not that many that I can compete in the Google list ranking war.

I could cut the quality and do it like the Ebay mirrors instead, just automatically query Wikipedia for the content and build a link farm! The Ebay mirrors proove that Google can be easily fooled. I should really apply that to important keywords like "oil", "doomsday", "save your butt", "googol", "politics", etc.. All the world coming to my site, at least for some days until I cannot pay the traffic anymore! This would force a reaction from Google and the media establishment.

[grasso]

In this thread there were two messages which have now disappeared. Thanks!

[Leosghost]

grasso ..I find All the web so much easier to spam than google that I like it too ..doesnt mean its better ..just dumber...And I'm no great fan of google... but usually if it's harder ..its better ..

[JayC]

I don't really understand the criticism in the initial post. Well, really I guess I do: one website operator, who feels his site is relevant for a particular search term, thinks that the search engine that ranks him higher than other sites that are just as relevant for the same search term is "better" than is another search engine -- while that second search engine also returns sites that are just as relevant for the term before his. Each of those site operators, I imagine, feel that the second search engine is "better."

A pretty common feeling, I suppose.

Google only goes for PageRank (TM) and does not care for contextual proximity.

That, though, is completely untrue.

If you want to rank your site well at Google, you have to figure out what you can about their algorithms and do what you can to satisfy them. If you feel like you're wasting your time pursuing PageRank and competing "in the Google list ranking war," you are absolutely right.

[grasso]

I am just making noise? Someone cared to filter it - two messages disappeared!

Google may care for contextual proximity but to a much lesser degree than it cares for Pagerank. Therefore, documents with high Pagerank and low contextual proximity appear on top of the list. Francis Grasso made the show in one article on New York Times Online but nowhere else. I make the show a hundred of times, giving advice, expressing thoughts, linking, writing, programming and making music, in the internet, in the usenet, in mailing lists, in online directories. Yet in Google my site appears below the New York Times.

You cannot deny that with the way that the internet works today there is a sort of hierarchy involved. The establishment was still off-line seven years ago, but them it claimed the internet, it is THEIRS now. Except for some details.