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Have I lost my Trustrank™?

Changed domain names

         

akmac

5:52 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've had an Ecommerce site for 5 years with the name widgets.net. 2 years ago, I aquired the widgets.com domain name, and pointed it to my widgets.net domain. 2 months ago, I developed a new site, with the same and new products under the widgets.com domain, stopped pointing the .com to the .net, and began 301 redirecting the product pages from .net to .com as the products were migrated. My intent is to completely replace the widgets.net site with the widgets.com site.

The unintentional result of this has been that all the pages that I've redirected to the new domain have lost their ranking in the serps.

The reason that I reference Trustrank™ is that the Pagerank™ of the redirected pages is the same as the destination pages (as far as I can see, I know it's incremental)-they are both pr1 (before pr disappeared).

So, is the most important factor in trustrank the age of the domain?
The content is the same...

These pages had been ranked consistently within the top 3 positions for over a year-mostly #1.

Any insight into how I can recover my ranking in the serps?

Or other ideas as to why I've lost position?

2by4

8:29 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You just made a very serious mistake, it could take upto a year for your site to recover. You should have simply 301'ed the .com to the existing .net, then you could have marketed the .com to your heart's content without giving google etc any indigestion. There is no way for you to fix this currently as far as I know.

akmac

8:58 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hmmmm...

You mean I should've uploaded the new site over the existing .net site and 301ed all the old links to the new pages under the same domain?

Or is that not at all what you meant?

I considered this tac, but ultimately abandoned it because the product migration is very time consuming. Perhaps I should cut my losses and do it anyway?

I'd be effectively cutting my store down 75% product-wise, as well as inviting more possible errors......... Is it worth it?

2by4

9:32 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Changing domains is a fatal error nowadays. Whatever method you used, you should have maintained the original .net domain alone, then redone it.

As far as I know, there is nothing you can do to fix this after the fact, it's too late.

Changing domains is something that should only be done as a last resort, with the understanding that you will most likely lose 90% or more of your traffic on the new domain until it is lifted from its sandboxed state, 301's don't help this at all from what I've seen.

The correct procedure would have been to simply 301 .com to .net, then rebuild .net to create your new version. Then start rebuilding the site from the inside out, harder to do but would have cost you no penalty. Again, google now has a mass of conflicting data on your two domains, switching back would probably but maybe not worsen the situation. As far as I know there's virtually nothing you can do to fix this now, domains form an integral part of google's system, and should never be messed with.

I just did a full rewrite of an existing site, kept domain, all urls changed, most 301'ed to new pages, all pages rewritten, and I didn't see so much as a blip in our traffic. Other's haven't been so lucky, but I don't know if they were careful with the 301's, hard to say.

glengara

9:41 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Trustrank"? Whatever next?

Can anyone sum it up in one sentence for a Noob?

akmac

9:45 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well,
I suppose I'll just grin and bear it then. Makes perfect sense for google to treat new urls with less weight. I've sent them an email so they (someone) knows that I'm not attempting anything shady.

Guess I better start building.

2by4

12:41 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Can anyone sum it up in one sentence for a Noob?"

How good and on topic are the sites/pages linking to you?

"I've sent them an email so they (someone) knows that I'm not attempting anything shady."

Waste of time but if it makes you feel better do it. They don't care about stuff like this.

annej

4:09 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you can read on and on about trustrank here
[webmasterworld.com...]

akmac, when you changed URLs you lost all your good incoming links. The best thing to do now is to start writing to all those sites that used to link to yuou and tell them you have a new URL.