Cloaked 302 with 0 meta refresh

how do I check for it?

[cornwall]

Lets say I am trying to ascertain if someone has a cloaked 302 against one of my sites, and have 0 meta refresh as well, and are disallowing caching..

..how do I test to see if this set of circumstances is in operation against a site?

Presumably I have to use a tool like SamSpade, and set the user agent to simulate Google. But don't seem to be getting to far with that. Or indeed whether I am using it in the right way. Is this is the way, & what do I set the user agent to? If it is not the right tool, any recommendations?

I assume this particular one is cloaked, it has no Google cache, but I cannot zap it in the "normal" way by putting the "no follow" on my site and zapping the other one from Google using their remove tool. So Google is getting a different URL when they visit the other site, to the one I get.

I have done over 30 of these "normal" ones, so am confident of using that method, this particular one cannot be removed that way. Therefore I suspect a cloaked redirect and 0 meta refresh, and want to test that hypothisis.

Any ideas?

[minesite]

Hi cornwall

Try using the Opera Browser with the Automatic Redirects turned off.
Under - Tools > Preferences > Privacy > Automatic Redirects

I’m not sure if other browsers have this option.

You will then be able to track all the redirects, every page.

Then you can use the “HTTP Response Viewer” to see what’s going on behind the scenes via the redirects.

You can find the “HTTP Response Viewer” by doing a search for “tracker2.php Pagejacking via HTTP 302 Redirect Google” and checking the links on that page.

[cornwall]

Thanks for your reply.

Problem here is that turning off redirects alone does not get to the root of the problem.

If the site is cloaking, then I need to be seen as Googlebot arriving at the site to be served up the cloaked page. Then I need to stop that cloaked page from refreshing. As they have caching turned off, then one does not know which page Googlebot is first landing at.

Any other thoughts, anyone?

[JKMitchell]

Are you using Sam Spade with a useragent of google or Googlebot?

You might also try something like poodle predictor that is supposed to read the pages like a spider.

Of course, if they are cloaking and using an IP range to redirect then neither of the above will work.

[encyclo]

Have you tried something like

inurl:/the-name-of-their-page.htm "A phrase fron your page"

? Even if they aren't showing the cache link, it would show if your content is cached under that URL. Also have you checked to see if the cloaking includes or excludes the Google translation tool IP addresses and the WAP tool?