Pop_unders - Is one pere page to much?

[Compworld]

Hello,

I have setup my ad server to display one one pop-under per page at a time. No pop-ups, only pop-unders. Is that to much?

Any comments?

Thanks,

CompWorld

[photon]

One pop-anywhere is too many for me.

[smayler]

I had pop-unders in the past, and they actually increased the revenue.

At some point, my pages dropped down on Google and I thought it was because of pop-unders. I removed them without ever figuring out was that the reason why I lost lead positions for those products.

[nancyb]

It has to be a really compelling site with very good reason for me to stick around if there are any pop-ups, pop-unders, or any other kind of popping around that a site inflicts on me. I usually leave at the first sign and never go back.

[victor]

Like a fair few people (and the number is growing) I got them blocked.

Never see one.

Sometimes that makes a site look autistic or just plain rude -- no reply when I press a button.

But that's not problem. Lots of alternatives just a click or two away.

[agerhart]

Pop-unders definitely work, and definitely increase revenue. They have no effect on rankings.

The cost of a few stubborn visitors who never come back because of a pop-under (that they can easily close if not interested) is outweighted by the increases brought by successful pop-under ads.

>>>>one pop-under per page at a time

Per page might be too much. I'd go on a section or session basis.

[jomaxx]

They have no direct effect on search engine rankings, but IMO having popups/popunders makes it less likely that people will choose to link to you. Over the long run that can turn into a significant penalty in SE placement, not to mention the lost direct traffic from those links.

[vkaryl]

photon: One pop-anywhere is too many for me.

nancyb: It has to be a really compelling site with very good reason for me to stick around if there are any pop-ups, pop-unders, or any other kind of popping around that a site inflicts on me. I usually leave at the first sign and never go back.

victor: Like a fair few people (and the number is growing) I got them blocked.

Never see one.

Sometimes that makes a site look autistic or just plain rude -- no reply when I press a button.

But that's not problem. Lots of alternatives just a click or two away.

Ditto all of the above.

[sidewinder]

Once per session, or per day *sitewide* is tolerable.

One per page load however, is excessive.

[Compworld]

Yea, I had just set it as a lowered tier to limit the pop unders. The payout is rather very very impressive. So, its really hard to take them away. People are also clicking on them, so I would assume that they are interested in them. Another tought though, doesn't the majority of people have pop up/under blockers? I mean, myself, I use Mozilla, so I never see any pops on any site. AOL, MSN, and Earthlink have the build in pop up blocker. I've also seen no decrease in sales, so is it that no one is minding the pops, or are the pops just being blocked, and the users do not know about it? I am doing a one week test to see what happens, if there is any increase or decrease in sales. That would be the major for me to sway in keeping them or not. Again, the payout is about double the industry norm, so I really do not want to cancel them out. But, I guess I have to kick the tires around before I make the final decision.

Thanks,

CompWorld

[sonjay]

I love people that use popups and popunders..... It just hastens the day when everyone will move to Mozilla or some other browser that has built-in popup blocking. IMO, anything that motivates people to leave Exploder behind and switch to a more standards-compliant browser is a good. thing. ;)

[dwilson]

Once per session, or per day *sitewide* is tolerable.
One per page load however, is excessive.

ditto

[Tropical Island]

I installed the trusty old Google toolbar with popup blocker when it first came out.

Popups and popunders drive me crazy.

We have now blocked 2235 pop ups!

It's only a matter of time until all browsers will block them.

[D_Blackwell]

I very rarely see pop-ups or pop-unders, and when I do, I try to find out why. They can have their place and be very useful, but are so abused that they just aren't worth being a part of (for me).

[vkaryl]

People are also clicking on them, so I would assume that they are interested in them.

I noticed before I installed AdsGone that many times when I tried to "click out" of the seemingly billions of PUs from either one or many sites depending, that instead of getting them GONE all I was doing was appearing to click on them - because perhaps if you linger too long on the mouse button, the NEXT one under thinks it's a click.... or something of that nature....

In any case, AdsGone quite handily solved the problem:

Blocked today - 8
Blocked to date - 3095
Blocked servers - 2247

Reminds me - got to update it....

[nancyb]

came back to read other people's comments and realized I was thinking of links opening new pages instead of PUs. I have had PUs blocked for a long time in Opera and also in Norton so I never see any PUs :)

What I really dislike - really, really, really - are those sites that open every link in a new page - shudder. Those are the sites I never go back to, the result being the same as a pop-under opening for every page.

[Llama]

I think that people get enough popups. I've blocked more than 2,000 and just reset the Google toolbar's counter a short while ago.

[vkaryl]

Oh, I agree. I view PUs et al much as I do telemarketers.... the absolute dreck of the earth, lower than whale**** on the bottom of the Mariannas Trench....

Bottom line for me is that if you do this to me, I will NOT EVER EVER EVER consider buying one livin' thing from you. Period. There is NOTHING IN THIS WORLD that I need that desperately.

[Compworld]

Opera.com is full of multiple pop unders and ups, so the major sites are still running them also.

CompWorld

[vkaryl]

Yup - noticed that when I went to download a "view my pages" freebie of Opera 7. I don't like it anyway as far as using it as a primary browser, and all of that of course guarantees I won't buy it for that reason alone. Y'know, I was somewhere just last week, too - a MAJOR brand name of some sort (senior moment here, can't remember what it was!), and my blocker notified me that it had blocked THIRTY-SEVEN pop-its of one sort or another! The reason I can't remember is because I didn't bookmark the site - I don't need what they're selling that bad....

[karmov]

Though I can deal with one pop-up/under per site, I would never stick around a page with one per page unless there was a really good reason.

That all being said, I now use a popup blocker so I don't notice these kinds of things anymore...