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Jon12345

12:16 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have a computer on a network which receives uploaded files. There are two websites with a form where you can upload files.

Is there any way possible to hide the fact it is going to the same PC? What happens if I register 2 domains each of which points to that PC? Will the person be able to see it is going to the same PC?

Regards,

Jon

Leosghost

12:21 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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NO
YES
Explanation of yes is "traceroute" or anyone of thousands of tools or sites or whatever ....

Why do you want to do this anyway ....?

dwilson

12:55 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If your PC has only 1 IP address bound to it, then a DNS lookup will reveal the truth.

If you can get 2 IPs from your ISP & bind both to the PC, it will be less obvious ... though having 2 IPs back-to-back will be a clue.

Windows Server OS's allow binding multiple addresses to a single NIC. So does Redhat.

ogletree

1:17 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't worry about it if you are worried about the SE's. If you are worried about other people then there is nothing you can do about it except get another ISP at the same location and have them both go into the same box. Only really motivated smart people could find out it was the same PC at this point and they would have to have suspensions already.

As far as SE’s go it is no big deal. Everybody does it. You can have 100 sites on one IP and have them all rank well. There has never been any proof that having 2 sites on one IP can hurt you in the SERPS. Anybody who claims to have proof is wrong because there are plenty of people to prove them wrong. At best it is one factor that goes into a penalty not a penalty in itself. If you are doing something really egregious you might worry about it and more than likely you will get banned for something else before you get banned for having 2 sites on the same IP.

Leosghost

2:06 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Whoops ..what I actually meant was..... why do you want to hide that tyhey are on the same server
....?

I work with one company who has over 100 sites on the same IP ......never hurt em at all

Jon12345

3:40 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Different business identities and I don't want my competition knowing for commercial reasons.

digitalv

4:39 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, there is one way to do it but it's kind of expensive :P

Install a NAT-capable router in a remote data center and assign any number of IP addresses to it. Then use NAT to forward the incoming requests to your system's IP address (normally NAT is used to translate public IP's to private, but you can do Public to Public too).

Make your domains point to one of the outside IP's and, and when someone queries a domain or IP address they won't actually be connecting to "your" IP - they'll be connecting to one of the IP's in the remote datacenter, and the router will forward them on to your IP address secretly, sort of managing the transmission for you. The user will never know your system's IP address, they'll only konw the IP that's assigned to your router in the data center.

Leosghost

10:11 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe this might work ..and be cheaper ...

if you built a frameset which referenced your actual site as the target in number 3 frame ..and you placed the frameset elsewhere with a call to the site via a crypted onload ...?

Not quite sure how to explain what i mean but no doubt someone here who's better with words will know what I'm getting at ...?

Or just put your second site on another server ....why not ....?