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8:02 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This one is so Web 2.0 that it's practically Web 3.0.

What do you get if you combine internet search with a group of people that get paid to take Skype calls and answer your questions?

[jyve.com...]

I'd watch this one - could just start an epidemic...

8:16 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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WOW...very interesting. I'm still exploring everything, but I think you could be right...an epidemic.
8:22 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First of the next generation of the web

will be interesting to watch and see how it developes and in which direction

steve

8:26 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dang. So, I typed in a question: "Kan man fråga på svenska också?" (Translated: Can I ask a question in Swedish as well?)

Took less than a minute to get a response in Swedish from someone :)

8:27 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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haha DrDoc...I didn't realize that was you. I got notified of that question 5 minutes ago ;)
8:52 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't know about this, I am not sure it is going to pick up. Also, it seems like a tool to promote JyvePro

JyvePro is a complete system that allows anybody and everybody to charge for their time over Skype. JyvePro also provides them with all the tools necessary to promote themselves on the web.

In any case, I don't think this is what Web 3.0 will be.
9:01 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are a couple problems that I see just by going to a couple questions:

  • About many questions are asked but not followed through with, therefore the person asking the question isn't getting a response.
  • Most of the questions are ridiculous questions that anyone could answer.
  • The filtering system that is suppose to filter the questions based on your area of expertise doesn't seem to be working. As of right now it seems that I am receiving all of the questions.

still investigating a little....

9:02 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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so does web 3.0 mean we go back to using tables for layout?

(just kidding. i know what you meant.)

9:49 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Great. So now I get to wait while someone (presumably overseas) types my question into Google and then pastes the response into the chat box?

Rocket science.

I asked a simple question, why is the sky blue? 5 minutes later no one had answered.

Google answered in less than 1 second... ;-)

[google.com...]

[edited by: maximillianos at 9:53 pm (utc) on Dec. 21, 2006]

9:51 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Seems to be working... Cute
And the answer took quite fast, I must say

How is Merry Christmas in Chinese
It was the 4th answer from google, but not the first ;)

10:16 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Wow that's one wacky idea.

The TOS says "The Web site is for the personal use of individual Members only and may not be used in connection with any commercial endeavors."

So where is the business case for making it pay?

Like Google answers but live. I like it but can't believe it will get the take-up it would need to become mainstream. When I asked about 'Wales' someone from the US replied.

10:16 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In the late 1990s there was a system called Abuzz that tried to do this on the new web. There were others as well, which were generally called 'Knowledge Management" systems.

On Abuzz, every was connected via email and taxonomic filters which "read" the question then forwarded it to the people who said they had knowledge on these topics. There was also a search engine on the site to check previous answers.

Everyone's answer was posted, and then they could fill in for each other, or argue.

The New York Times bought the system and tried to develop it, pouring millions into it. They had categories to help direct people to the right questions to answer. Anyone could ask or answer a question.

The result was pretty much what you see here on WW. And, if Adwords existed at the time, it would have been a money maker. The other thing that killed it was the fact that it was email driven and about a year after its launch spam hit everyone's email inbox as never before. No one wanted to give out their email address.

NYT pulled the plug on it about 2000. Meanwhile, search engines got better and better, as did boards such as this.

If Jyve is to work, they need to focus on a category (I was interested in agriculture at the time). Meanwhile, they need to buckle down for a lot of relationship questions--people remain puzzled about people more than anything.

11:15 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Here are some others

[keen.com...]

[ehter.com...]

Where you pay for answers . . .

jyve is taking the above and combining it with Yahoo Answers (now that Google Answers is no more)

I like how clean jyve is -
good stuff

11:28 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A different question than maximillianos used, but a similar result.

I'm not seeing the bennies tied to this, but then, I've been wrong about some other stuff in life too, so maybe it's great for someone else.

6:28 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just tried it and got a dumb answer. I didn't feel like arguing about it because I was eating dinner.

It was probably someone from here trying out the system. I'm going to ask another question.

7:10 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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thoughts...
1. soooo many areas there is no way people are going to know about. I asked a simple one about Korea. "I don't know" the answer.

2. waaaay too slow. like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow.

3. if yahoo answers decided to add chat/connection features... then this is gone.

its harder to go the other way around (phone knowledge base to text)

4. I think the comment about this needing much more focus (limite to certain categories) is correct. Dispersed way to thin without a huge userbase (for questions or answers) first (like via a portal). go for a few select verticals first.

5. love the idea and that someone is pushing the next-gen ideas but I think something like this is more feasible for now: three characteristics of a next-gen search engine [webmasterworld.com]

8:28 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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New Search Engines are coming up like the new one Quitura. I hope this can live up to the expectation of the users.
8:37 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have just been testing Dr Doc. He is good :)
8:58 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Another similar service:

qunu.com

1:59 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree with maximillianos. Why do I want to wait 2 minutes, which is how long my simple query took, when I can find what I'm looking for on Google in less than 1 second? It just doesn't make much sense to me.
2:42 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think Jyve could be really useful if you don't try to treat it like a conventional search engine. There's google.com for that. Jyve is there if you want to ask someone a question. That's it.

- Grant

3:01 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Jyve is there if you want to ask someone a question.

I'm open to trying something new - I just can't figure out what I would ask Jyve that I couldn't ask Google and have an answer much faster. I ask goog questions all day every day and find the answers i'm looking for.

To me, it doesn't seem much different than ChaCha.com that we all talked about [webmasterworld.com] back in september. I haven't used that site since then.

3:15 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'd imagine some people would prefer one or the other (Google vs. Jyve), but to me they are for different purposes. I discovered Jyve about an hour ago thanks to this thread, and I haven't had a real question for it yet, but I'm sure there will come a time when I want to chat/talk with someone about something.
3:39 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It needs a facelift
5:19 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I asked where to buy a nice garden shed in toronto and home depot was the answer. Ick, have you seen the plastic crap they sell? lol

Neat idea but needs some meat on it's bones if it's going to go anywhere.

5:32 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's not a substitute, it's a supplement.
11:22 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think this will be great for people who don't search very well. I personally am very good at finding the right keywords to type into Google to find what I want, but some people who are less technical really struggle to type in just the right words to get a good response from traditional search engines.

In short, let them ask Jyves instead of asking me what keywords to use!

12:49 am on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We all know what people search for most. Will there be experts for that too?

Not gonna work.

4:14 pm on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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They couldn't answer a simple question:

What is the ultimate answer to life, the universe, and everything?
7:45 pm on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We all know what people search for most. Will there be experts for that too?

Probably not...

I asked the following:

Will my stupid questions wind up in a user history by IP address, cookie, or some other means so that answerers can eventually ignore my questions?

The system kicked out a message indicating that my question was adult in nature. (or something like that...)

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