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On that note, is it even possible to find JavaScript code that will defeat popunder blockers? If so, where? Does anyone sell code like this? I know that it's easy to create popup-like windows with CSS and JavaScript, but I'm specifically interested in popunders - NOT popups.
I'm sure many of you will say it's best not to use popunders, but on my site they're giving great results for advertisers (well, those that aren't blocked), so it would be nice to generate some more impressions.
I've not seen a pop-under on my PCs for months - I do see them on some networks where development is strapped for cash - but I'll bet the next IE and FF developments for networks will drop your stats still further
If you hand someone a flier, and they throw it in the trash, do you run up to them and try to force another flier into their hands?
If you're in a bar and your commercial is playing on the TV and a patron mutes the sound, do you un-mute it and then crank the volume?
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If your answer to all of the above is No, then why would you force your popunders on people who clearly don't want to see them?
If your answer to any of the above is Yes, then you have more problems than WebmasterWorld can solve.
Pop-ups are far from the devil and who says he is harassing them? I don't mind a single pop-up every 12 hours or so when I visit a site because I know it's helping the owner pay their bills.
I don't mind a single pop-up every 12 hours or so when I visit a site
But that's not the way they are typically used.
Of PARTICULAR annoyance are sites that pop-up exactly the same window for EVERY page that you access. One well-known print publication does this on their web site. I'd NEVER subscribe to that publication, nor do I use their website except when it is linked-to from another site. They make it such a pain to read their articles, that I don't want to be bothered with them.
I see absolutely NOTHING good in pop-unders. Lower than pop-ups and ambulance-chasing lawyers. :)
MichaelBluejay has it right. If a user is blocking pop-ups or pop-unders, your efforts to circumvent that are unwanted, will annoy the user and drive them away, and are just plain rude and uncivilized. It's exactly the equivalent of the actions Michael cited as similar examples.
If somebody says "no, thank you", the decent thing to do is to accept that graciously and walk away. Don't persist in being a pest. It's boorish.
Yeah.. they pay well but you do it at the expense of losing long term traffic.
Perhaps because it's his site, that he invests his time and money into and he would like to generate a return on his investment.
Wow, and you think this is a justification? Just because he gets some benefit? I could steal your wallet, and that would clearly benefit me, no question about it. But would it be right?
(And if you reply that stealing is illegal, then you're missing the point. The point is, you can't justify a bad action just because you benefit from it.)
I don't mind a single pop-up every 12 hours or so when I visit a site because I know it's helping the owner pay their bills.
Wow, this is just all kinds of ridiculous. First off, even if popups made money, you think that's the only way? There is no limit to the *reputable* ways someone can make money on the Internet. I'm supposed to sympathize with them because they not only chose one of the most annoying ways (popups), but they actually seek to OVERRIDE THE BLOCKER that users have installed, communicating to him that THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE HIS ADS? Wow.
But also, POPUPS DON'T MAKE MONEY, compared to reputable strategies. Sites that use them alienate their potential customers and fail to build a loyal userbase. People who are greedy and chase the money, make less money.
