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weblockpro and trademark issues

         

Ally_Cat

8:20 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A competitor of ours is using our company trademark in their source code (not sure if it is in meta tags or hidden text), but I can't view it because they are using a program that locks outsiders out of the source code. When anyone searches our company name (in just about any engine) their listings appear right after ours, with hundreds of listings because they are using hundreds of doorway pages to redirect to their site.

I'm at a loss as to what to do. I've put in a complaint to Google, but I can't find an easy method to do this with any of the other major search engines. I shudder to think how much traffic we are losing to this company through customer confusion. I highly doubt a letter direct to this company would do any good - I'm sure they realize what they are doing is illegal, as they have tried so hard to hide it. It's not just us they are doing this to either - every one of their competitors has been targetted in this manner.

Any suggestions?

vincevincevince

8:31 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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they are using a program that locks outsiders out of the source code

they just can't do that... there is no way that can be done

sticky me the url if you would, Ally_Cat?

jbinbpt

8:38 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They appear to be using "charset=windows-1252"

What's up with that?

Ally_Cat

9:00 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My you figured that out quickly jbinbpt!

vincevincevince

9:33 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Right - the truth about "weblockpro"... i went to their homepage...

1 - they use a tonne of blank space to try to fool people... look in the bottom right - it's got the code there

2 - copied and pasted code into editor, stripped the whitespace and /n/n

3 - now we can see the code... and remember search engines can't read his garbled code... so anything here must be in plain text - or it won't be readable:

<Page protected by *********>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="description" content="blah blah..">
<meta name="keywords" content="blah blah">
<title>blah blah</title>

If your trademark is being used - then it will be within THIS text...

[as for getting the source code, did that just earlier for fun - but that wouldn't be fair for the poor misguided purchasers of weblockpro if i posted how here!]
<edit>Because we are dealing with potential trademark violations, I'll post how to read them </edit>
make a new .html file with this in it:


<script language=javascript>_dw=document.write;
function _x(s){s=unescape(s);t=Array();t[0]="";j=0;for (i = 0; i < s.length; i++) {t[j]+=String.fromCharCode(s.charCodeAt(i) + (i%2==0? 1 : -1));if((i+1)%300==0){j++;t[j]="";}}document.write=_dw;u="";for(i=0; i<t.length; i++) {u+=t[i];}document.write("<plaintext>"+u);u="";t=Array();_dw=document.write;}

view the source of the "protected" file and copy the very last line (starts with _x)... and paste it to the end of the new .html file you made - view the file, and you got the source :-D

jbinbpt

10:23 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Cool.... You guys rock

jbinbpt

11:46 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a special place in my heart for companies that abuse trademarks. It was so bad for me that I needed to involve the lawyers. Don’t let them abuse what is yours.

pixel_juice

12:54 am on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you search for weblockpro on Google, the second site is an online tool to decode weblockpro pages ;)

vincevincevince

11:11 am on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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second site is an online tool to decode weblockpro pages

that's got to be the most amusing thing i've read all day! was actually pondering writing my own tool - now i guess there's no need.

weblockpro is really misleading customers however because it says 1) that content is encrypted (it is not - it is encoded) and 2) it fails to mention that you will never rank highly in primarily content-based e.g. google search engines due to the engine having pretty much zero content to deal with.

if i was going to do source hiding i'd at least integrate cloaking for SE, an encoding algorithm relying on loading a value from a seperate server, which would be changed so it would only be valid once for that page, etc. and i'd still not feel the need to charge the massive amounts that weblockpro do!

JonB

8:15 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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interesting,there was a post on soem BBS today about this and it took me 1 minute to find this "descrambler" tool.tried it and the page is "unlocked" :)

also just found some interesting links in first results of google search...;)