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Proper Names for my Pages

How should I name these pages with same category but different contents

         

johnafrid

4:20 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first post to WW. I came to WW via a link from google answers 3 weeks ago and since then I have been here every evening for at least 3-5 hours since I didnt know a word about SEO. Anyway, the question is
I have these widgets ---about 25 different widgets (learnt the word usage here). Red widgets, blue widgets, PS2 widgets, gamecube widgets etc etc etc etc. Each wiget category (for example PS2 widget) has upto 20 pages and each page has upto 80 different widgets.
I am thinking of naming my pages as
www.....com/PS2-widgets/PS2-widgets-a.html
www.....com/PS2-widgets/PS2-widgets-b.html and goes on upto -z.html for each category.

Do you guys think its ok to give these names to these pages or would it be considered spam by the SE since there would be the "same widget name" mentioned twice in the same URL in 26 pages--almost 52 times. However, the content in these page would be completely different.

What is the best way/practice to give names to these pages. Before asking this question, I did a lot of reading and search to find answers to my questions and to find out about the standard SEO practices. Page naming is one of them and I want to make sure I am not making a mistake. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Sorry about the bad English but this is the best I could do and couldnt come up with better words than this

AWildman

4:42 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I never have a problem and I do the same sort of thing...

../menucontent/menu_correlations/correlations.htm

The other pages within the menu_correlations folder are along this line:

correlations_ak.htm
correlations_al.htm
correlations_ar.htm
.
.
.

There are about 50 of them all beginning with the same word.

johnafrid

7:36 am on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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AWildMan,
Just came to my mind....How to you give titles, descriptions, and meta tags for these types of pages. Same pages with same category content. For example, if the games are Playstation2 games....then we really cannot mention the names of all the hundreds of games in these pages. So, we would be using the same titles, descriptions and meta tags as well ( i know meta tags are not crucial anymore). How you guys in the woods give titles, descriptions for these pages

vincevincevince

10:50 am on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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think about this:

domain.com/ps2_red_widget_title.htm
domain.com/ps2_blue_widget_title.htm

keeping your pages at the root of the site will improve the PR, and using ALL the relevant words in the url is also useful.

try to have one page for every game, with the title properly named for that game

johnafrid

1:34 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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vincevincevince

To have a seperate page for each widget or game is almost impossible for me at this time since there are over 5000 widgets/games in the website. The best I can do at this time is to have the widgets mentioned in the content of the website and try to maximize on the category/titles/descriptions. What do you think about this strategy?

Do you think it will cost me a lot to get this scripting done or its not that much work. I have a friend who is very much into php etc. If its not that much work, he would do it for me for sure but if its alot of work, then I would rather wait and try to either learn it myself or get it done later---when I have the $$. Is it easy or difficult and time consuming

[edited by: johnafrid at 2:04 pm (utc) on July 26, 2003]

vincevincevince

1:49 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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since there are over 5000 widgets/games in the website

i really really advise you to look into server-side scripting. PHP is a great bet.

if it were me, I'd store all my product info in the database, and the pages for each individual game would be served via a 404 page.

if that makes no sense to you, then look into what php & mySQL can do for you.

basically it would allow you to generate all those 5000 pages virtually and on-the-fly - never actually exisiting physically on the server.

johnafrid

1:55 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I dont know much about web technologies and dont know more than Dreamweaver MX. Also came to WW few weeks ago and now am trying to do my best. I dont have the $$ to spend on SEO, I am doing whatever I can.

About the 404, I always thought about those as the worst thing I could get online from any website. Do you think I could get some fance 404s that are not that much annoying as I think they are

Vincevincevince, I would love to know what you are talking about. It would be great if you could also refer me to some URLs

Thanks for the help

[edited by: johnafrid at 2:24 pm (utc) on July 26, 2003]

takagi

2:01 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi johnafrid, Welcome to WebmasterWorld. I just saw in your profile, you also live in Tokyo. Great!

keeping your pages at the root of the site will improve the PR, ..
Well, vince3, I happen to disagree with you. PR is not related to file structure unless it is the guessed PR for a new page.

[edited by: takagi at 2:22 pm (utc) on July 26, 2003]

johnafrid

2:09 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Takagi san,
Hajime ma****e...go to see someone living in my neighborhood. I have been reading WW for 3 weeks now and there is so much its difficult to digest...I came across your name many times around but I never checked your profile---though I knew the meaning of tall tree. I thought you were from US/West.

nice to meet you here

johnafrid

2:22 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just a clarification on the ****. It actually means nice to meet you in Japanese and is considered very polite. Unfortunately, it has another 4 letter meaning in english

bill

1:31 am on Jul 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't agree with placing everything in the root either. I've had great luck using techniques like you seem to be using and AWildman mentioned. Break your stuff down into logical directories and put some of the keywords into the directory folder names as well. Google PR for its own sake is overrated.

It does sound like a good idea to eventually move over to some sort of database driven site with the number of products you have. If you went with a PHP/MySQL solution like vincevincevince mentions then it would probably be just as easy to put everything in the root.

johnafrid

9:15 am on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, thanks guys. I now really think that I will eventually go the server side scripting way and will have to dig deeper to find a friend who could do this php/mysql scripting for me. Is this only a linux solution or is it for both linux and windows. If it were windows only, what would be the options there? Any ideas/clues/tips

bill

8:34 am on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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johnafrid there are so many potential ways you could build a system like this that I'd say it would be best for you to use a technology and platform you or your programmer are comfortable with. There are solutions available for any type of web server on just about any platform you can imagine. To get some ideas you might look around some of WebmasterWorld's forums: PHP Server Side Scripting [webmasterworld.com], Perl Server Side CGI Scripting [webmasterworld.com], Microsoft Related - .NET and ASP [webmasterworld.com].

johnafrid

1:32 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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bill,
Thats great. I really would spend the next few evenings and see if I can get some more ideas. I already have a very competent person in Malaysia who is an expert in ASP and access. He has asked me to send all the info regarding the website that needs to be included into the database. I know what I have with me for the static pages. To make an SE friendly dynamic website, what should I ask him to do. And, since I dont know a single thing about programming, do you know of any specific steps I should ask him for me to do before he hands me over the project...thanks in advance

bill

7:32 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dig around here for threads about search engine friendly dynamic websites or variations thereof. One of the keys is to have a system that doesn't create difficulties for the SE bots by adding query strings to the filenames generated. There are ways to work around this, but I'm not an authority on ASP...check the appropriate forum here.

Another thing you might want to look into is 301 redirects. You'll want to maintain any rankings you currently have with the SEs, and to do that you'll have to set a Permanent Redirect from the old pages to the new ones.

There is a ton of info about these topics here. You should be able to find the info you need via the site search.

johnafrid

9:17 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Bill,
Thanks alot. I have friend who is good in a php/mysql. I think I am just gonna give everything to him and he will take care of it for me. Thanks for all the help. I would have never come this far without the help from you, Takagi and vincevincevince. Thanks again guys. See you around