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The Perfect Website

         

Sweeper

2:59 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can this exist, and if you think it does already, then what makes it so perfect?

trillianjedi

3:01 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Going to be different things for different people.

People can't post them either as it's against the TOS.

TJ

ritualcoffee

3:02 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That's a really big question - one that is hard to answer considering the scope.

In my mind the perfect site is one that meets it's goals.

Could you narrow it down a bit and maybe I could give a more accurate answer? :)

Mike12345

3:08 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Reading the definition [dictionary.reference.com] leads me to beleive perfection is impossible. Ask johnor, he may have an insightful answer for you ;)

Sweeper

4:12 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The perverbial one-site-fits-all solution.
A website that is visually and structurally intuitive, and extremely SE friendly without any form of spam.

What are the major points of a website.

1. ROI
2. GeoTargetting
3. Informative

any more you can think off?

SlyGuy

11:42 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The perverbial one-site-fits-all solution.

I hate to sound "deep", but isn't it all relative?

A "perfect" website geared towards someone who collects antiques, isn't going to be a perfect website to someone who wants information about formatting their hard drive.

Just a thought..

- Chad

Sarah Atkinson

4:14 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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People can't post them either as it's against the TOS.

This is one this I sorta disagree with. We should have someplace where we can post sites we like. NOT for Advertisment perpouses but more for praise. And not nesiserly our sites but just sites we see out there that we like. or maybe say "Hey look at this site, they have a realy nice solution to such and such problem" or "This site breaks this rule in such a great way" ect. I think you get the picture.

carfac

4:48 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This moring, my website is perfect.

It was perfect yesterday.... then I had a thought, changed someting, and made it perfecter.

Two days ago, it was perfect.... then I had a thought, changed someting, and made it perfecter.

Three days ago, it was perfect.... then I had a thought, changed someting, and made it perfecter.

My point is that I would think that most websites are as good as they can be made, until one things of another way to inprove it, they improve it, anbd the cycle goes on...

dave

Marketing Guy

5:03 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>>The perverbial one-site-fits-all solution.
A website that is visually and structurally intuitive, and extremely SE friendly without any form of spam.
What are the major points of a website.

1. ROI
2. GeoTargetting
3. Informative

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Er....Accessability? Usability?

The number one major point of a website certainly isnt ROI. It may be for some businesses, but they are in the minority.

I would guess that individual pages that contain pure information out-number business sites by a great deal.

THE major point of a website is information.

THE major motivation for a business to have a website is money.

Web designers / SEO's are there to offer a balance between the two - information / accessability vs ROI / exposure.

Sometimes, sacrifices have to be made on one side in order to accommodate the other.

IMHO, you can't have a perfect site.

You can have a site that is a perfect example of accessible web design.

You can have a site that is a perfect example of SEO at its best.

You can have a site that is a perfect example of providing information.

You can have a site that is a perfect example of a viable e-commerce business model.

But you can't have your cake and eat it! :)

Accessibility / Usabilty are to some extent sacrificed to design. Information is sacrificed to SEO (how many well written articles have you altered to include keywords?). ROI is sacrificed to information (your giving it for free).

Just my random Friday evening mutterings.....ignore and move on! ;)

Scott

mossimo

5:42 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hay Sweeper a Buddhist once told me:

Perfection is for fools death and gods for it’s imperfection that defines our life and every flaw is an opportunity to become grater, every mistake a chance to make right so enjoy the show and cherish the chance to @!*# up.

By the way carfac “Perfecter” isn’t a word.

Harley_m

5:43 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Its rather like saying - whats the perfect car...you cant have one - cos one person will be scared of too much power, and want a small nippy thing - others will want powerful beasts with every gadget under the sun...

for any given website - in any given field - a perfect website is one that does its job...perfectly.

It must be well designed, and make the user smile - without them ever looking at the design and away from the content...

It must have a brilliantly simple to use, yet still powerful Navigation system - to allow them to be at what they want to see/read, before they even know they want it...

but most of all - it should contain what they came to see - nothing more, nothing less - inspire and excite, whatever its about - even an ecommerce site - and should then lead you onto other sections/sites that you dont even know you need, until your there...

all of this while loading in a fraction of a second...

simple really!?

Harley

PeterHo

5:47 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's impossible to satisfy everybody. Even from the beginning you're choosing your target when you choose the subject of the site. From here the site's already not perfect for everyone. There are for sure people that find your site perfect but that's far from everybody.
What makes me think a site's perfect then? A subject that interests me, good layout, high usability. I also like light colours on a site. No offensive content on the site.

A perfect site is different for different purposes, a "perfect site" about physics can't be perfect when it comes to cooking, if you understand what I mean? :)

Harley_m

7:14 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no - the same rules apply to a cooking site and to a physics site - both must be perfectly clear, easy to understand, flawlessly easy to navigate, be well designed and inpsire - and have great content...

of course the actually site changes - but the rules stay the same...

Harley

PeterHo

9:34 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You're right, but I think that there are differences. A site about physics is more textbased. The physics site's target group is those who are interested in physics and therefore the page can contain more text than a site about cooking. People who visits a cooking site may want to see pictures of the tasty food, therefore a cooking site is different from a physics site.
That's my view of it.

carfac

5:32 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mossimo:

>>>> By the way carfac “Perfecter” isn’t a word.

Yes, I know that. :)

I just came up with a good way to add some more key words to my site... I started that tonight. Some of the pages are now ever morer perfecter. (I am quite proud of how I did it- I wish I could share with you!)

dave

digitalghost

5:54 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Never let the pursuit of perfection impede progress.

Rejoice in the small victories.

Strive constantly to improve while remembering that perfection is always a step away.

Leave things just a little better than they were when you found them.

Remember FLAP. Finish Like A Pro.

There's my recommended daily allowance of quotes.

mossimo

9:03 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Carfac:

I know I was just picking on you. I just wish I came up with it.

carfac

8:16 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mossimo:

n/p! :)

dave

StanBo

1:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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When talking about perfection, one can always keep in mind the aim of a particular site.
If the aim is profit, then the cheer profit defines how perfect it is.
If the aim is branding - the impact on brand awareness is a measure
If the site is here only to bring a top-scale info - content and usability define how perfect it is.
In short - to evaluate perfection (or anything for that matter) you need to define two things:
1. What do you try to measure
2. What will you use to measure it

jamesa

1:33 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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exactly, StanBo. A perfect site is simply one that meets its objectives.

ncsuk

1:35 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"A perfect site is one which meets its objectives"

True but also it should be,

"A perfect site is one which meets your objectives and enables potencial and current clients to satisfy there needs"

jamesa

1:38 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yea, assuming satisfying their needs is one of your objectives :)

trillianjedi

1:45 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"A perfect site is one which meets your objectives and enables potencial and current clients to satisfy there needs"

Surely, that is the main "objective"?!

TJ

ncsuk

1:56 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not always, if I wanted to take money off clients and give them crap service I would.

Skylo

5:27 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hear that ncsuk :::giggle:::
Crap service, nicking your money sounds all to familiar. Is it not an everyday occurance;)

MrDolphin

10:14 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The perfect website:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>The Perfect Website</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>
<center>
<a href="http:www.perfection.com/cgi-bin/convert_to_perfect.cgi">Click here to become perfect</a><br>
(Warning: Click only once! Do not click the BACK button)
</center>
</body>
</html>

trillianjedi

9:26 pm on May 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mr Dolphin,

So even the perfect website generates a 404 error?!

TJ

MrDolphin

2:05 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That must be some kind of a hardware problem, Trillian.

-The Cantankerous Cretacian