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I am suffering here. I can't seem to get visitors.

         

naitsirhc26

7:19 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I would like some help with my website. I publish a couple of articles each week, I am listed on all search engines, I already have about 20 links on other pages, and I have done this all in one month. I still don't get any visitors though. Do I just need to wait longer? I would really like it if you could help. Thank you so much.

moishe

7:55 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few thoughts:

You are listed in SE's;
are you on the 1st page when someone searches?
are you listed for terms that people search for?

Have you considered using a PPC campaign to get your site off the ground?

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naitsirhc26

8:55 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is PPC pay per click? I am on a no spending budget. I am only 15

Veloxi

9:13 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How new is the site? If the site is pretty new it'll take a while to get traffic. What kind of keywords are you going for?

moishe

9:14 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, PPC is pay per click.

naitsirhc26

9:51 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, its only a month old. I am going for web design help, html help, free logo and banner design, etc... I know these are highly competitive, but I know so much about them.

Veloxi

10:05 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, its only a month old. I am going for web design help, html help, free logo and banner design, etc... I know these are highly competitive, but I know so much about them.

Okay, a month is way too short a time to realistically expect results at this early stage. Also, the keywords you're expecting traffic with are freightingly competitive too ("html help" gives 4,070,000,000 results in Google, for example).

I'd say just keep doing what you're doing, but also try to keep building links that point to your site as well. If you have good content, people will eventually find you and link to you. Just remember to be realistic about expectations of traffic and rankings.

Some things you can do are in the meantime is put the URL of your site in your forum signatures (not this one, of course), get an RSS feed up and running and then put it on sites such as Jordo which are RSS directories, get a link to your site put on your school's website, link to it from your myspace profile, etc etc. Good luck!

Fribble

8:55 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm still learning here too so take this with a grain of salt but what has worked for me to get some early traffic in competitive areas was to target lots of keywords and phrases on the same page (2000+ words), or on interlinked clusters of smaller pages.

I've found that I can pull a decent amount of 3+KW search traffic and occasionally hit on a few unusually long phrases that are pretty popular. In fact, the majority of my sites get over half their search traffic from 3+ keyword searches.

Cienwen

5:06 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you are serious about doing design for hire vs. getting traffic for the sake of AdSense etc., then you may want to start in the real world. I'm talking about networking and reaching a target market. Start in your community. Offer to help out local small businesses with their advertising materials. It will build your portfolio and give you a reputation as a hard worker with creative ideas. You would be amazed at how one job leads to another.

When people go looking for a designer, they rarely shop for one through Google. It’s all about the references.

naitsirhc26

7:36 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh no, I just like helping people with web design. I now get about 30-100 visitors a day. They all come from articles that I have written though. I think that is pretty good for a new site. And 3 people have joined my message forum. I am just plugging away. Since I am getting all these people at my website, will I maybe start to get links? People say they like my site. Thanks.

the13thmajestic

10:14 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually, 30-100 per day sounds fairly good for a site that is only one month old. I have a site that is 2 months old and is getting similar traffic.

When Veloxi said that your target was "frightingly competitive"...true words.

And don't take this wrong. You are only fifteen. You probably cannot compete with the more experienced gurus out there. I am not trying to say that you shouldn't persue your knowledge of the subject because if you have a passion for it then you should.

But, if I may be so bold, I have a suggestion. Rather than try to get traffic in such a competitive market, why not defer to something else you're passionate about. Do you like skateboarding? If so, write about skateboarding. Do you know alot about skateboards? Then you should write about skateboards. Want to talk about skateboarding with other skatebaorders? Then include a skateboarding forum for repeat traffic. And then....

Hit them with skateboarding products. Turn that niche traffic into profit.

Skateboards are just one example...you could do the same with playing the tuba or plastic modeling. Surely you have many interests that you can narrow down into specific niches.

If you do, you will gets lots of focused traffic and the probability of making a nice profit by offering associated products.

Zerrlander

9:05 am on Jun 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I feel your pain ... it's tough starting out. The best way to get your site out there and not pay for it is by networking, just as you are here. What's your site all about? Maybe there are others that have sites that woud be complementary to yours :)

ronburk

4:30 am on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh no, I just like helping people with web design.

Then why fret over traffic levels? Just putter along and have fun.

too much information

4:53 am on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yea, if you've had a few people sign up in a month that's a pretty good start.

I completely redesigned my site about a month ago and just had my 8th person sign up on the forum and 24th person sign up for the cart system. I am using PPC though because I'm in my thirties. ;)

I think the hardest thing about starting a web site is that you start to loose patience when it doesn't pick up as fast as you want it to. Don't get caught up in that. Use your forum as a personal blog for a while, make sure you post as much as possible and keep the thing growing. Eventually you won't be talking to yourself anymore and you will have a working community.

The more you add to your site, the more traffic you will eventually get. Just keep pluggin along, it will build eventually.

(I think it's great that you are starting something like this at 15. There is so much you can learn about marketing, business and technology that you will never learn in school.)

ergophobe

6:00 pm on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The problem with your area is that by definition anyone who is an expert in the area has the ability to create such a site. In other words, if I'm an expert in wildflowers (and I wish I was, though I didn't when I was 15!), I may not have the expertise to put up a decent website about it. But if I'm an expert in web development....

First off, I think your traffic stats are awesome. You're getting 3000 uniques a month on a brand new site. If you are getting people signing up, you'll get links too and traffic should double quickly. If you keep adding good content, you'll keep doubling for a while.

One thing to consider is to keep a blog where you throw up little pearls of wisdom that don't merit their own article and where you announce your more important articles. Every time you post an article, give it a day, then blog about it, then ping Technorati and let people know it's there. It's not that you'll get much traffic, per se, but you will get traffic from people who actually are looking at technorati tags like "xmlrpc" and "RFC-8834" and so forth. If your article is good, they will link to you.

Also, if you have five article ideas in your head, do a google search on all five. If the results on the first page of Google are all better than what you can do, pick your poison. But probably some topics will have great articles and some will not. Focus on the topics where you think your article will be as good or better than what's out there. This, by the way, is also more or less how you will pick your interface design PhD topic ten years from now, so it won't hurt to get good at it ;-)


Then why fret over traffic levels?

I know what you're trying to say, but authors like to be read. Otherwise, what's the point? If there's no traffic, why go to the trouble? You might as well print it out and post it on your fridge, where at least your mom/wife/dog could read it.

naitsirhc26

5:41 am on Jun 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all of the help!