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How much is a Website Worth?

And how do you improve that value?

         

motiv

7:46 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have an established widgets website: <snip> <snip>. I would like to know how much is a good price to sell it for. Or, if I keep it, how can I make more profit from it. I am considering adding a widgets for sale section to it also. All advice is welcome.

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trillianjedi

11:29 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Motiv and welcome to WebmasterWorld!

Please take a moment to review our TOS - site reviews and promotional URL's are not allowed here.

The general rule of thumb is a site is valued by a multiple of its profits. That multiple can vary depending on the market and your sites positioning. 6 months is not unheard of, and nor is 3 years.

Ultimately it's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. You need to decide what you're prepared to sell it for.

Or, if I keep it, how can I make more profit from it.

You want to get your profits up as high as possible even if you do want to sell, as that will affect overall valuation.

I am considering adding a widgets for sale section to it also

Bear in mind the competition there is tough. An empty for sale section could actually have a negative effect on the reputation of your site.

If you can pull it off though, and get a commission on sales, it could be a lucrative move.

TJ

HRoth

12:04 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One question along these lines. If you've incorporated your web business, then you end up trying to pay out all profits as salary so you don't have to pay corporate income tax. How does that affect the valuation of the site? I saw a post once saying that if all the profits went into salary, the site had no value, that a site's value could only be figured on profits above and beyond salaries. Is that so?

trillianjedi

12:20 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't think it makes a great deal of difference (for valuation purposes) whether or not a business is incorporated.

Time costs are an overhead, and therefore not profit, unless the salaries are "loaded" for tax purposes.

I saw a post once saying that if all the profits went into salary, the site had no value, that a site's value could only be figured on profits above and beyond salaries. Is that so?

Yes.

What would you pay for a business with a turnover of $100,000 p.a. that has to employ 4 people at a cost of $25,000 p.a. each to run that business?

There are exceptions. If you're one of the "employees", then there is some value to a buyer (although it's generally low, as this is akin to "buying a job"). If the owners salary is loaded, and not a true reflection of value, then that also would need to be taken into consideration. For example, if I paid myself $50,000 a year for one hours work per week, I could probably argue that a fair element of that is actually profit, it's just reflected in the accounts as a salary for tax purposes.

TJ

HRoth

10:47 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Okay. I intend to keep the salary for the single employee rising instead of showing corporate profits for the next several years. I was planning on continuing to build the business for another 3-5 years before trying to sell it.

LifeinAsia

11:36 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How does that affect the valuation of the site?

Apples and oranges, sort of- are you talking about valuing/selling the site or the business?

If you're only selling the site, salaries don't come into play. The buyer figures out what continuing to maintain the site will cost him with his current staff. His salary costs may have no similarity to yours. Especially since your salaries are mostly based on minimizing corporate profits.

If you're selling the entire business, then salaries MAY come into play. If none of the employees are key employees and can easily be replaced or even done without, the it's not a factor. For the key employees, maintaining a high salary to keep them aboard WILL come into play obviously and lower the valuation.

HRoth

1:56 pm on Jan 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was planning on eventually selling the site as part of the business, which includes mailorder as well as ecommerce. Included in the business would be proprietary recipes for widgets and all the site's content, but I do plan on splitting off part of the business into a separate site and separate corporation first. This part is something I can continue to do as I get older without too much problem (and without a retirement plan, I feel it's important that the work I plan on doing not be too hard), and it takes very little space, but also it would be very difficult to find another person who would be sufficiently knowledgeable about that part as well as the rest of the business so that the whole thing would work for them. The part I want to split off produces the least revenue right now, but I know that if I separate it, it will make good money for me, because I will be able to get a larger audience for it than I can now, with it being attached to the rest of the biz. Actually, if I am unable to sell the major part of the business at that point, I will just dissolve it. I'm not sure what kind of money is out there to buy a biz like mine.