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William L. Smith, chief technology officer for Atlanta-based BellSouth Corp., told reporters and analysts that an Internet service provider such as his firm should be able, for example, to charge Yahoo Inc. for the opportunity to have its search site load faster than that of Google Inc.
[washingtonpost.com...]
An x-client (who failed to pay up) had Bellsouth for DSL which ALWAYS disconnected from the internet when someone picked up the phone.
In today's world what is faster? With broadband it really doesn't matter. Google loads in a thousandth of a second, Yahoo in a hundredth, MSN in 2 hundredths, what do we really care?
The speed of the search, and the time it takes to load the search engine is NOT important. What is important is how much time we spend clicking on junk sites that don't deliver what we are looking for.
I think all 3 of the major engines are comparable for speed, what is important to me is TRUE results!
Forget speed, forget pages indexed, I simply want an answer to my search query that is accurate without having to sift though all the junk!
Quality counts, speed in this market is irrelevant!
Google loads in a thousandth of a second, Yahoo in a hundredth, MSN in 2 hundredths, what do we really care?
That's now. What if you were to have to wait 3 seconds before your ISP sent you the page from Google? It could still be at your 2M speed (or whatever you subscribe to), in terms of the actual transmission. It would be unfortunate that it takes time for the request to get through to Google and for the reply to get back...
Kaled.
That says it all about William's wonderful brainstorming idea, and it's par for the course for Bellsouth thinking.
BellSouth cutting 1,500 management jobsNEW YORK (AP) — Regional phone company BellSouth (BLS) said Thursday it is cutting 1,500 management jobs, or 2.4% of its total workforce, because of competition from cable providers.
I don't think that the BS concept of blackmailing to get business is going to amount to anything. I think that the headline says where the future of BS lies...beaten by cable companies.
If google is going to take 3 seconds to load because they don't pay, I'm going to a different ISP
Easier said than done ..because just like the Oil Companies what we will end up with is a collusive enviroment with all the ISP's working together.
I think we'll see the Yahoos and Googles of the World Lobbying to defeat this hard ..and I suspect with public opinion on thei side the ISP will lose ..
but if the ISP get their foot in the door ..it will be hard to kick them back out so this needs to be defeated with the first swing of the bat
BellSouth cutting 1,500 management jobs
Lets hope William L. Smith was one of those now looking for work.
The content has the power, not the ISP. The ISP is the electric or Gas supplier, what you can do with those resources is up to you!
The true value is in delivering the content, not the fuel.
You buy the big SUV against the costs of running it, because you want it. You buy the sports car that can go 3 times as fast as any legal limit in the USA because you want it!
As a born European, and a truelly vested member of the USA, I say this......only economics will stop the USA, and that wouldn't be a good scene! The USA is actually great because it make a huge number of bad decisions and doesn't much care about the costs!
had Bellsouth for DSL which ALWAYS disconnected from the internet when someone picked up the phone.
That they give one site priority over the other is one thing, that the lower priority site gets held up at the checkpoint is quite another.
For those who didn't get it (I didn't at first), what they are talking about is NOT bandwidth or pipeline width. What is being spoken about is that the highest payer will have their visitors on 'priority' meaning anyone going to THAT site will be given the green light while everyone else gets to wait in line.
It's a bit like those free file servers where paying users get a dedicated download, except in this case the SITE pays, well, sorta...
For example:
Site A has priority, sites B-Z do not, but ALL the sites A-Z connect through Router T-1000, while Router T-1000 has a wide enough pipe to deliver content to 500 visitors simultaneously.
Now 1000 visitors log on, 100 are going to site A, the rest to B-Z (just for math's sake, to keep it simple).
Thus, 100 are given priority and TIE up 100 out of 500 available connections at Router T-1000, while the other 900 visitors get to deal with the remaining 400 conns.
Perhaps SOME sites will try to profit by offering premium access, but I think the most successful sites will be those who don't have to resort to it.
But, since sites are a LOT faster to download than files, it would appear the FASTEST loading sites will Rule the Internet once again. Even thou fast loaders will have no more priority than slow loaders, the fast loaders will be able to serve more pages / conn / hour.
Ahhhh, nothing has changed, it's just sos.
