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What has happened to the MSN.co.uk Web Directory Results

         

lloyd

3:13 pm on May 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Web Directory sites on MSN.co.uk used to be results supplied by Looksmart.co.uk, but now seem to be all Looksmart databases, such as Looksmart.co.uk, Looksmart.com, and Looksmart.au.
Type in london hotels and you will see what I mean.
Put your cursor over the title of the site listed and in the bottom left hand corner the url of the database being used will be highlighted. Also it is giving direct url results, which didn’t use to happen. What I mean by this, is that there is no reference to a database, for example the listing for www.hotels.co.uk.

The bad news about this is that to get a good listing on MSN.co.uk you may have to start thinking of using the now ridiculous Loooksmart.com, Small Business Listing.

Does anyone know who is providing the results these days or are MSN.co.uk using their own algorithms now. Which databases/directories are providing results for the Web Directory Sites Results.

engine

9:05 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think you'll find, currently, the status is still Looksmart and Overture/Ink.

NFFC

9:15 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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They have switched to exact phrase matching.

NFFC

4:37 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Is the switch to UK filtered Ink backfill new?

engine

5:17 pm on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It was always filtered. The current SERPs are mixing Overture/Ink backfill not quite alternatly.

lloyd

3:46 pm on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure at all about what engine has said here.

Over/Ink are giving the results in the Web Directory Sites section. I think not. Elsewhere in MSN.co.uk, probably.

I have seen this on one of the other forums, which makes interesting reading, if not slightly worrying.

(edited by: engine at 4:22 pm (utc) on May 30, 2002)

engine

4:43 pm on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>in the Web Directory Sites section

I didn't specifically refer to any section of MSN.

Depending upon the search you perform you get differing results.

Scroll down past the featured sites (MSN ads), the sponsored sites (Overture) the web directory listings (Looksmart UK first then US second) to the web pages - I'm seeing Ink redirects on the serps.

You gotta go a long way down to get the first Ink data for some searches.

It means you got to think very carefully about what service you employ to deliver your site. The filtered results in MSN UK mean that it's not worth some LS US listings, but, again, it depends upon the specific search and target KW.

arc_light

6:19 pm on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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as of this week they're getting free listings from here, too: [uk.zeal.com...]

same idea as zeal.com but powering UK results. I'm considering managing some categories there if I have time...I'm already a Zealot in the US version.

lloyd

11:48 am on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi

Zeal isn't that for non commerical sites only.

If it isn't then this could be good news.

It is a pity that engine edited most of my last point as this is worrying development, which no one has a reply too.

engine

2:49 pm on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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lloyd, you are correct, zeal is meant to be for non-commercial sites.

With regard to LS, strictly speaking, you are supposed to only have one listing in either one or the other. OTHOH if you "pay" you can probably get any listing. ;)

As far as MSN UK is concerned, the worst case is a competitive site having a listing in the INK in-fill. You'd be so far down the list as not to worth it.

arc_light

11:35 pm on Jun 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

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yes Zeal is non-commercial only, but even if your site is commercial you can sometimes get its subpages listed, if they're articles or FAQs or content like that. of course nonprofits can get in w/no problem.