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3:02 pm on Dec 5, 2017 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I've recently switched to https . As a first step i've moved my mobile subdomain http://m.example.com to https://m.example.com

i deleted the webmaster tools account for http://m.example.com and entered a new one for https://m.example.com and updated the sitemap urls to the new https ones

I seem to have lost about 50% of the traffic to the mobi subdomain since doing this. i'm "hoping" this will come back although it's been about 3 weeks now so maybe it won't :(

I'm kind of trying to understand where and if i've gone wrong before i move the main domain to https. One thing i have noticed is in my webmaster tools entry for the main domain there is one sitemap showing 91k pages submitted and 87k indexed

in the https mobi webmaster tools entry there seem to be 2 sitemap colums , one says web and the other says mobile

Web pages
91,563 Submitted
7,185 Indexed

Mobile
91,563 Submitted

so i'm trying to understand
1. why there are 2 columns
2. why the mobile pages are indexed as web pages
3. why there are no pages indexed under the mobile column

any help would be appreciated, i'm a bit out of my depth and seeing my income fading away
4:53 pm on Dec 5, 2017 (gmt 0)

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to start with i would recreate the google search console property for http://m.example.com and see if that gives you any clues to the crawling and indexing situation.
6:28 pm on Dec 5, 2017 (gmt 0)

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I agree with phranque, the old http data can help you see what is still being indexed as http rather than https so that you can start looking for reasons. Without that information you have to guess what is causing it. You would be able to see whether the's an old sitemap listed that Google is using and you can delete it once you know they also see the https sitemap and are indexing those m. pages as https.
6:28 pm on Dec 5, 2017 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the reply. I've done that and all the information seems to be the same for both properties apart from Search Analytics which shows a drop in clicks on the date of the move on the [m....] property and a corresponding rise in clicks on the [m....] property
the crawl stats are identical for both properties with a large rise around the date of move
6:41 pm on Dec 5, 2017 (gmt 0)

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the sitemap index still shows as http://m.example.com/sitemap_mobile.xml but when i click on it and it shows the sitemaps in the index all 6 of them show as https:/m.example.com/sitemap-en-categories-mobile.xml etc

both properties seem to have the 2 columns
Web pages
91,563 Submitted
7,185 Indexed

Mobile
91,563 Submitted

which i must admit i had never noticed before. why 2 columns ?

it's a shame i can;t add a picture here to show that
11:09 am on Dec 6, 2017 (gmt 0)

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okay so here is a link to an image of what i see for my sitemaps with the 2 columns

[ibb.co ]
12:13 pm on Dec 6, 2017 (gmt 0)

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I'm pretty sure that, given time, Google will figure it out and give you the rankings back.

Although 3 weeks is quite long, I agree.

Did you make any other (major) changes?
12:50 pm on Dec 6, 2017 (gmt 0)

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Can you access the http: m. pages or are visits sent to https: via 301? If you cannot access those pages under http protocols you can safely delete the sitemap from the http version of the property in GSC. That may discourage both versions from being indexed.

If you can still access the pages under http or https then you should work on setting up a proper 301 redirect so there is no duplication of your content.
2:03 pm on Dec 6, 2017 (gmt 0)

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I'm pretty sure that, given time, Google will figure it out and give you the rankings back.


i hope so thanks

Did you make any other (major) changes?


no but i'm about to make the main www part of the site https so the loss of traffic is worrying

Can you access the http: m. pages or are visits sent to https: via 301?


yes i have a 301 redirect set up already for every page from http to https thanks
11:18 am on Jan 23, 2018 (gmt 0)

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As per my knowledge google bot takes time to index the website, better option you can utilize fetch as google but i know manually it takes time too i would suggest kindly fetch main targeted URLS.
 

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