Collective: new IP and rotating agent name?

[ebess]

In response to another post, Brett said that when submitting many URLs through Collective batch submit, "I always grab a fresh ip. I also rotate my agent name between various versions of ie/nn and Opera."

I would love to be able to do this!

How do you get a fresh ip? Do you mean that you install the collective onto a new domain with a unique ip? Or do you mean you launch the collective in a browser that's running on a pc with a new ip? Does The Collective utilize the ip of your local PC? If so, any suggestions on what I should do -- I've got a static IP address and just the 1 PC...

And how do you switch the agent name?

Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-ebess-

[Brett_Tabke]

I run it a variety of ways. From various servers and a couple lines at home (1broadband,1dialup) - I mostly run it under 98/apache off the dialup just for this reason. So, grabbing a fresh ip is as easy as reconnecting.

I've thought about a logical way to rotate agent names, but I don't see a proper way to do it other than by hand. You want you agent name to follow your current ip. Ideally, if you switch ip's, then switch agent names. I could put it in a drop down I suppose and allow users to set the default.

[ebess]

Thanks, Brett, for the fast response!

How do I switch the agent name by hand?

And is there any way that I could specify an IP address by hand in the script, rather than having it pick it off my PC?

-ebess-

[NFFC]

Playing about with MultiProxy [proxy.nikto.net] at the moment, could this help with the fixed IP issue?

[ebess]

NFFC -

thanks for the AWESOME tip!!!

:) :)

-ebess-

[NFFC]

Thanks,

Having said that writing and supporting a program like The Collective and *then* giving it away FOC is awesome.

Trawling for Freeware is just scummy. ;)

Those proxies are so slooow

[Brett_Tabke]

Just fyi: I've never promised that either Traxis or Collective will remain free. I've always had in the background the possibility of charging for them in the future when stable and commercial worthy.

Ebess: near the top of "collective.cgi" is a line
$ouragent = 'Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win95; I)';

Just change what is between quotes to whatever agent name you want to match. I think in a couple of versions I have two or three lines of options. Just change the last one on the screen.

$ouragent = 'Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win95; I)';
$ouragent = 'Mozilla/6.0 [en] (Win98; I)';
$ouragent = 'Mozilla/6.0 (Windows 98;US) Opera 4.04 [en]';

The last one there with Opera in it would be the last one evaluated and used. I left them all in there so you could just swap out lines without having to remember agent names. Put as many lines in there as you want, but the last one is the current one used.

[ebess]

Brett -

You should charge for them -- they're the best of their kind, and the only programs that really seem to be written for the SEO who has many sites to maintain! I thank you just for bringing them into existence -- I've already paid for numerous submission programs that ended up being of no use to me so it is very refreshing and exciting to find a tool that actually truly benefits me. I can't wait until the scheduled submission feature is enabled :)

Also, thanks for the agent info. BTW, I noticed the following line in collective.cgi:

$uip = $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'};

Is this where it's getting my IP from? I was thinking perhaps I could set this whatever I wanted, rather than letting it grab my IP... but I couldn't find any further reference to $uip elsewhere in the script so I wasn't sure if it was even used.

Thanks for everything!
-ebess-

[Brett_Tabke]

IP isn't really used. I was going to add an ip tracker so that the collective could warn you if you have submitted to many from a particular ip. However with the various combos of batch, single, and scheduled submissions, it would be difficult to come up with a system that doesn't get in the users way. I think what I'll do is just print a counter to the submissions screens "xx submissions to x search engines with this ip" and give an option to reset the counter if they wish.