an Unusual Prob....

[spike]

I have 2 sub-domains on my www.domain.com
they are www.name.domain.com types...very typical,
they are reached by standalone www.domain.com redirects,
the redirects function perfectly. the problem is.. i cannot
ever get either of these 2 redirects (or their host subdomains) to show up in a search engine search..using any
keywords from the name of the redirects....or even general
subject terms... i have meta tags and keyword stuff, and
have sent the site submissions for for both redirects and host subdomain names in thru the isp's own submission engine.. this has gone on for 6 months... there is either something really wrong or something im not doing right...
or both..the main domain..it does so good that any search engine will put it right up front in a word search...
but my subs just cannot be found...please offer your thoughts..thnks, spike

[Marcia]

spike, just to get it straight, you have two domain names, each being pointed to their own sub-domain at your main site. Right?

Go over to the Server Header Checker [searchengineworld.com] and run those two domain names through. See whether they come up with 301 (permanent redirect) or 302 (temporary redirect). You can also run it through the Spider Simulator which you'll find over at Search Engine World.

If it's being redirected by your registrar, chances are it's a 302- which you don't want - you want 301's unless it's soemthing else you're trying to do.

Some registrars have what they call "cloaked" redirection and others will use a redirect with frames with the domain name staying in the address bar of the browser.

Find out what kind of redirect is being use first off, before you can figure anything else out.

Meta tags don't really do anything, you're dealing with full page crawling and following links so you need to find out exactly what the search engines are finding.

Also, submitting is not really a help for Google, it's being found through links which also can depend on what kind of redirection you're using whether the links have any bearing and benefit for the site.

Check it out an let us know what you find.