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Justice

12:48 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hello

im new here and i have searched the forums fairley extensively and while i have see lots of great tips i didnt find what i was looking for.

ok. im a programmer and i have created a asp site (finished) and i have my own winNT server (piece of crap, but i have a tiny target audience). the site works grand in accross the Lan.

My problem is sorting it so that the outside can access it. i can connect to it from our lan (which is behind firewall, server is not, just plugged into router, server is standalone). i have permanent IP address. but i have not created my domain yet.

i had thought that i could access site using the ip address in internet explorer, but that only returns page not found (when i try access from internet connection not routed thru LAN). i can ping the IP so i know the server is active.

when i try register the domain its asking me for

"If you are hosting your web site somewhere other than XXXXXXX you may enter your host's Name Servers below. You must enter at least two. Your web site host can provide these Name Servers to you."

and i just dont know.

i know im missing some failey simple steps. any help would be appreciated.

chris_f

1:20 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You need DNS records so that people can find you domain. Basically they turn www.domain.com into an ip address. If you ask the company who you get the IP Address off they should be able to provide this free of charge.

Chris

Justice

3:58 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thx chris

my problem is that i am appropriating the Bandwidth form my company (dont try that at home!). i dont want to go to our isp and ask becuase the site is completely unrelated to our buisness.

is there any way i can get DNS records with out going to my ISP?

txbakers

2:51 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You don't have to have the name with your ISP, you can put it on any name server and it will be found eventually.

If you have your own domain name, and the box is reachable outside the firewall, then it should work.

Justice

11:16 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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great thanks :)

i'll talk to them and see what they can do and what info they require.

i think i know enuf now to proceed
thanks again

davegerard

11:59 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are a couple of free DNS services out there. I think Yahoo might have something that you can configure online. Otherwise, consider hosting your own DNS in house. There are a few good inexpensive programs you can find for that.

Just because you can ping the box doesn't mean that you'll be able to bring up the site. A couple of things to check out.

1) Make sure that the firewall has port 80 open to allow traffic to the site.

2) If you're hosting on IIS make sure you have set a "Host Header" record for the site if you have other domains that you plan to host. You can do that from the IIS properties of the site in MMC.

3) To make sure that this site will work with a domain name (locally), you can do a makeshift DNS test from your host file in the C:\Winnt\System32\drivers\etc directory by inserting an IP and a domain name. Open it in Notepad. Then test it out with IE on the same machine.

Send me an email and let me know how it works. Good luck.

Dave

davegerard

12:03 am on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Heck if you can't find a DNS, I'll host it for you for a little while until you find something. Give me a holler if you need help.

Dave
davegerard@usmetro.com

PS: Hmm...How much is a little while?

Slade

12:24 am on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I use xname.org for a few sites as secondary and primary DNS servers.

The interface could use some spiffing up, but it works, and is free.

universalis

3:22 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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my problem is that i am appropriating the Bandwidth form my company (dont try that at home!). i dont want to go to our isp and ask becuase the site is completely unrelated to our buisness.

I don't know about where you work, but this just seems like a perfect recipe for getting fired.

also:

i have my own winNT server

Are you sure you want all the hassle with the DNS, maintaining the server and especially, applying all the security patches? If you think you can just connect a "piece of crap" unpatched Win NT server to the net and not be hacked or DDOSed into oblivion, you're kidding yourself. You can get a decent Windows 2000 hosting package with full ASP support for a few hundred dollars a year. You get a much better service, someone else is responsible for uptime and patching, and you won't get fired for it either. Think about it...

Justice

4:07 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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updated Thread here

[webmasterworld.com...]
soz for duplication.

also universalis im the IT manager, so this is purely "Testing" with a view to our own company having its own site. thats all anybody goto know.

site wont be up for 2 long, i just want to host it for a while (couple of months) and if some people like it they will host it for me (but only after they see it working)

i know its dangerous to leave the server hooked up but i accept the risk and our companys network is safe from this server.

redheadedlefty

11:39 pm on May 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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However, if you can't get to your server using the external IP address, none of what has been discussed in this post is going to work. Putting the ip address in Internet Explorer should work if everything is set up correctly. If it doesn't, need to fix that before you mess with the DNS stuff.

davegerard

3:11 am on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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REDHEADEDLEFTY WROTE...
However, if you can't get to your server using the external IP address, none of what has been discussed in this post is going to work. Putting the ip address in Internet Explorer should work if everything is set up correctly. If it doesn't, need to fix that before you mess with the DNS stuff.

MY REPLY:
Apparently redheadedlefty hasn't ever worked with IIS and host headers. Host headers allow you to host multiple sites on a single IP, but allows only 1 site to respond to just IP requests. What if the site is not the default site or requires a host header?

I think what we were trying to do here was troubleshoot the issue before drawing a conclusion as to what the problem is.

Justice

4:34 pm on May 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lo guys
just lettin ye know i got this sorted.

the problem was the bloody router!

the people who installed it, told me everything would be fine, everything should work.
however as my desperation grew i tried everything, eventually logging in to router to see what the setup was.
lo and behold
all internet trafic comming in was blocked (even tho we have firewall as well) EXcept Ping trafic.
thats what was so bloody confusing!

thx for the help guys. even tho it didnt help i must say i have learned loads over the last few weeks trying to sort this