The same technique but one site is PR4 and other is PR0

How soon do you start to worry about a fresh domain?

[adder]

Hi,

I'm not exactly a newbie as I develop some pages for other people but when it came to my own site I couldn't seem to pull it off.

Last year I coded a cool php content management system I applied to sites of two clients. They went to PR4 and PR3 in no time.

Then I decided to use the same system and SEO techniques on my own freshly registered domain. It is the first time I ever try to develop a fresh domain name. Now it's almost 3 months old but I haven't had any visits from search engines. GoogleBot keeps visiting me once a week or even twice a week but I never appear in the results. The same scenario goes on with Yahoo and MSN.

I can't find where's the problem.

When do you start to worry about a freshly registered domain if it doesn't get any search engine visitors?

[Insomniak]

Were your clients also starting with fresh domains or redesigning old sites? How does your content compare with theirs? There are a number of reasons they might outperform you.

Its probably early to start worrying though, PR usually takes more then 3 months and Google results are sketchy for the first 6 or 12 months - or forever in some cases ;)

[adder]

Thank you, that made me feel better. The content is nowhere near similar yet my content generally attracts more interest than theirs and it is applicable to several industries.

All the client projects have always been redesigning and promoting old and awfully constructed sites. Never a fresh one.

At first, I was worried that my site might reseble a recycled article farm but as all the content is written by myself and checked with copyscape for duplicates, I hope this is not the issue.

[Philosopher]

Your content and the backend has nothing direct to do with your sites PR. Your site's PR is dependent on one thing...links.

Your clients sites almost certainly had links, with your site being brand new, it likely has no links which means no PR and no ranking in the engines.

Even if Google is coming by and spidering your site, without any links, your site won't show up for any searches (this applies to pretty much all the engines really).

[jimbeetle]

adder, firts, keep in mind that since the toolbar PR is only updated about four times are year, what you see is not what really is. True PR is constantly updated by G, just not made visible.

That said, you don't mention anything about backlinks for the new site. What's the situation there?

[Insomniak]

I think your main issue is the new domain, Google favors old ones. Keep promoting and be prepared for some erratic traffic as your pages jump in and out of search results.

Last year I started 3 very similar sites based on the same CMS with different content. They are still taking turns going up and down no matter what I do. At least they balance each other out.

[adder]

jimbeetle, Philosopher, Insomniak, thanks for suggestions.

Well, some of the old client sites didn't have backlinks, I am gradually building some for them.

I have to admit that I sometimes have problems with backlinks. I try to avoid automatic submission software yet adding manually to the free directories (usually PR3 frontpage and PR0-forever category pages) just doesn't appeal to me. So yes, according to Yahoo, this fresh site has 12 backlinks, according to Google - 0. I know, this is hillarious. :/

And speaking about new and old sites, heh, I'll tell you a story: I have this domain name I registered 3 years ago. It has been pointing to my Portfolio site which is PR3. There are two surprising points. My portfolio is PR3 (has approx 10 - 20 backlinks and no fresh content and conists of 4 clean and well coded pages) and the old domain name, which was pointing to the portfolio is also PR3.

[jimbeetle]

Well, some of the old client sites didn't have backlinks

If pages in the sites had PR then they had to have backlinks, you just didn't see them.

Don't use Google's link: operator for finding backlinks, it isn't accurate and never has been. Open a Webmaster Tools account and register the site with Google; backlink counts are more accurate, though still not 100% complete.

Yahoo Site Explorer probably shows the most complete backlink info.

[adder]

The client sites didn't have PR. Well some pages had PR1 but only a few.

[jimbeetle]

The client sites didn't have PR. Well some pages had PR1 but only a few,

Just going by what you said in your original post.

[adder]

Thank you for your answers.

I just realized I've been lying. I have had a fresh domain project for a client. I completed it late in September and being just registered it is now PR4! Yes, that's PR4 in just 4 months. I am not happy about that as it makes me realize that I've cooked-up my own site and done something terribly wrong.

Probably I am a guy who can make PR4 and PR5 websites but doesn't know how it was achieved. :(

Would somebody be so kind and help me to compare those two sites to let me understand where I've gone wrong with my own site?

Thank you.

[dukelips]

In one of my sites,the main page shows a pr of 0 while the inner pages show a page rank of 3.

Even after the pr update , it remains the same.

Pls help