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kdfrawg

12:33 am on Jan 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I hope that this is the right place to post this. Despite searching fairly diligently, I could not find the answers to these questions. Or perhaps all I found were answers that I was too dim to understand. I think it is the former, but you never know. Let us assume that the following directory structure exists, with the primary domain name being directly in httpdocs and the others being in subdirectories directly under httpdocs.

primary_domain_name
---secondary_registered_domain_name
---coppermine_photo_gallery
---proposed_new_registered_domain_name

There are a lot more than that, but these will serve as illustrations. When I do a Google search on site:www.primary_domain_name.com, I get about 1,700 pages returned. Almost all of them are from www. secondary_registered_domain_name.com. However, when I search Google for site:www. secondary_registered_domain_name.com, the only hit I get is the home page.

Secondary_registered_domain_name, by the way, points to a PHBB2 forum with about 20,000 posts in it. Primary_domain_name is a site hand-built via Dreamweaver with only about 10 pages, all of which are indexed by everybody. The main site has been there for over four years. The forum has been there for about three. I am doing some more development on a third site, noted above as proposed_new_registered_domain_name, which I would like people to be able to find. I don’t care if anyone ever finds coppermine_photo_gallery, or several others like it, because they are mainly private stuff that is not shared very much.

My ISP refers to things like secondary_registered_domain_name as “Add-On Domains.” When you set these up, there are five choices of forwarding types: Parked, For Sale, Frame, Standard, or External IP. Secondary_registered_domain name is set up as “Frame.” This works fine. When you type in www. secondary_registered_domain_name.com, you get to the right place. Still, I’m not thrilled about having all of the pages winding up under primary_domain_name in searche engines.

I am doing this because I don’t have much money, but I do have a lot of time. I am a disabled old fart with 30 years of software development experience. I have to do something. ;o)

Is there any way to force Google and their ilk to return all of the pages in secondary_registered_domain_name in a search for site:www. secondary_registered_domain_name.com? (as if there was a way to force Google to do anything.)

Is the way that they are returned making it more difficult for people to find these sites?

Is there some better way to do this other than to by hosting accounts for any domain name that I register?

Is any of this really harmful, in terms of people finding my sites?

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this and for responding if you do. Sometimes the details just drive me nuts.

Michael

stu2

7:23 am on Jan 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Welcome to Webmaster World.

Is there any way to force Google and their ilk to return all of the pages in secondary_registered_domain_name in a search for site:www. secondary_registered_domain_name.com? (as if there was a way to force Google to do anything.)

You could try providing a sitemap of your secondary domain to Google Sitemaps.

You could prevent Google from searching the secondary domain by adding the secondary domain's url to your exclusions list in your primary domain's robots.txt (once your secondary domain has been indexed).

You could 301 redirect all your secondary domain's urls to your primary domain's home page in your primary domain's .htaccess file (once your secondary domain has been indexed).

You could submit to Google to delete your www.primarydomain.com/secondarydomain/ pages from their index (once your secondary domain has been indexed and after the 301 redirect has been in place for a couple of months).

Is the way that they are returned making it more difficult for people to find these sites?

Probably not. Searches are done using keywords. If your pages ranks well for those keywords, they'll usually show up in the results.

Is there some better way to do this other than to by hosting accounts for any domain name that I register?

The method you are using is reasonably standard and as far as I can ascertain doesn't have any downsides. You are using your hosts Add-On domains feature to create the secondary domain, right? Not just creating a sub-folder and plunking your secondary domains pages in there.

Is any of this really harmful, in terms of people finding my sites?

Nope.. but then you did say you had time on your hands :)

kdfrawg

5:53 pm on Jan 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thanks, stu2! You're probably correct; too much time to ponder and worry. LOL!

It seems like the net result is 1) that it doesn't much matter and 2) that I haven't screwed up badly. Both of those answers work for me. So I think I'll just leave things as they are, except that it all will continue to grow some.

Thanks for sharing your expertise!

Michael

ps - The other weirdness about the main domain is that it come up with a page rank of 4, and the information under the main URL is four years old, not very thrilling, and sort of out of date. I'd have assumed a 1 or a 2.