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Do you need to Spend Money

Starting a Website

   
11:39 am on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am interested to know if someone can start up a Website and make it a success witout spending a cent?

Examples: Free web hosting
No paid search engine results
No paid Avertising

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11:42 am on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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you'll need to buy a pc ;-)

apart from the obvious things like pc, net connection etc it is possible.

11:45 am on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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get ready for looooot of work and no profits for some time.

it is possible, though.

4:11 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'd avoid the free web hosting, since web hosting is so cheap anyway.

There are a number of problems with free web hosting:

- often slow and/or unreliable

- your users will have to put-up with ads that you have no control over

- often limited size

- often limited bandwidth or monthly quota (i.e. users will get a nasty message instead of your website once you go over the monthly quota)

- you are usually not allowed to sell anything on the site

- you are usually not allowed to display ads on the site

If you can't sell anything or display ads, how will you make money? But I don't know how you define "success". Even if it's a hobby site, I'd still pay for hosting.

Paid advertising - particularly search-engine advertising need not be permanent. It can be a good way to "jump-start" a site.

Other than that, you will need the technical knowledge needed to develop the site, or be willing to learn it, since you won't be able to hire somebody else. The knowledge you acquire may be the most valuable thing you acquire form this exercise. :)

5:34 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You don't need any money to make an income from the web. You can put a site on a free account, use a PC at a library, use a free HTML editor, make a site based on content from library books, and then sell ads or products on the site. Some free hosting places let you put your own ads on your site.

It's easier to have your own domain. Most affiliate or ad programs won't let you sign up without your own domain but some are okay with free hosting places. So making a web income without any investment at all is not the easiest way to go about things but I think it is entirely possible.

[edited by: Jane_Doe at 5:36 pm (utc) on Aug. 16, 2006]

5:46 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't agree.. you'll really get no where if you are prepared to spend nothing?

Even take your favorite hobby, you can't participate in anything unless you spend money on travel and equipment and hire etc ...

If you are just learning to build websites, then fine use any free facilities out there, ( as much of a hassle as they are ) but it is a way to learn..

If you want to create a site that is going to show some return then you are going to have to spend something...

7:09 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It isn't to hard. You need a computer, it needs to be fairly decent, but most important, it has to be on as long as you want the website up. If you are private hosting, the computer is what the website is viewed off of. The files have to copy to the other person's browser so they can view.

The copying of files is what is considered "banwith". Its the transfer of information to another computer and therefore makes the computer do more work. The worse the computer, the slower its going to load. But an old computer will still work. A basic website usually consists of text documents(containing HTML) and images. Both are relatively small files, so it should go fairly quik. The bigger the files, the more bandwith.

Then you will need a server program(e.g. apache). The files go onto the server program and the program transfers the files to another computer.

I hoped I helped.

7:57 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Being a Junk Dealer at heart I started with a borrowed computer, dial up and a free site from my isp. I've since moved up, but my original free ISP site pulls in over $1000.00 per month. To get it up and running I used every freebie I could get, using netscape composer to do up the pages. The only money ispent was for my internet connection.
8:16 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It can be done for free but I think you need to spend a little money in order to acheive your goals.

A proper domain name is almost essential to make your website seam credible and trustworthy. As for free hosting, you get what you pay for. I suggest even using a low cost web host.

Once you have a domain name and web hosting the rest can technically be done without spending a bean. It is not easy but it can be done. Web design and seo are the key areas you need to be prepared to work on.

Mack.

4:39 pm on Aug 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've since moved up, but my original free ISP site pulls in over $1000.00 per month.

Lovejoy - are you an affiliate marketer?

Newbie

4:57 pm on Aug 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Like most things:
1) you need money to make money
2) the more risk you take, the higher potential return on your investment

Every situation is different, but the most likely scenario is that a $0 investment may bring in a few hundred $ over a few months, with growth very slow. Investing a few hundred dollars can bring in a few thousand dollars over the same period, with much stronger growth.

If you're happy with just a few hundred dollars profit for your time, then go for it. If you're like most people, you're more likely interested in getting more value for your time.

Start with $0 investment if you must, but you should definitely plan on plowing all the profit back into your project if you ever want it to grow.

8:56 pm on Aug 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Newbie

Hi Newbie, actually affiliate payments are minimal part of my income. I figured it out in the late 90's that unless you have substantial traffic banners and such don't even really pay the rent for the space they use, compared to a product you sell on your own in the same space.

Nearly everything I sell is in the form of very detailed informational products ( Not get rich quick ebooks)that I've written myself and sell for a fee for access. I do have my own affiliate program for my products, but I don't use CJ or any of the other big names to do it.

6:29 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Usually what you pay for is what you get. It is very difficult to do something good without spending money
7:18 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree that you should pay for hosting, and for a domain name. Everything else you can get for free.

If you need software, look for free open-source software:

  • Dreamweaver -> NVU
  • Photoshop -> GIMP
  • ASP -> PHP

    etc.

  • 11:23 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Hi there to everyone. I am very very new to the internet.
    Is there some where I can get idiot friendly step by step instructions on how to get a website that I bought on eBay up on the web. I have a domain name and a web hosting a/c already created, but I can't work out how to get the website that I bought (it came in a zip format with articles and adsense and images and?)
    I am keen to get into the web / internet system, but can't find any easy to comprehend instructions. Most seem to assume that you already know something. It took me a bit to just sort out what FTP means. Then I went to find it.
    can anybody help me with directions?
    cheers - bipolarpenguin
    11:53 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Just search for free ftp on somewhere like softpedia or snapfiles or znet
    11:56 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Hi WOB

    I suggest you go and spend a few hours in a very large bookshop an check out all the "for dummies" web books,

    If you didn't understand what FTP mean't then, you've got a lotta reading to do,

    There are no simple step by step instructions,

    You need to absorb the culture an the language an some off the tech, at your own pace

    P.S. Ask your hosting company to recommend an FTP package that works properly with their setup

    3:25 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Also, talk to your web hosting company. They may be willing to complete the setup for you, for a nominal fee.