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DOCTYPE Problem,

A bottom scrollbar appears because of...

sderenzi

8:32 pm on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi again. On my Website I'm using DOCTYPEs in every .htm file. I use frames so the one I placed in the index.htm is <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

Then in all the rest I placed <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

The problem is that a bottom scrollbar keeps appearing and I found out what is causing it. The <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
DOCTYPE is making the bottom scrollbar appear whenever the body text needs to be scrolled. I couldn't believe that was causing it but I removed it and all was well. So my question as a beginner is why? Is there something I am missing here? If I enclose it in <-- ...> then the problem goes away. But then the question is will the DOCTYPE still work?

ergophobe

11:44 pm on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

offhand I would guess that declaring the doctype makes an element render one way, and lifting it causes it to render another way. In other words, it's not a direct consequence of the doctype, but an indirect consequence.

Try it with no content except a lot of text in a <p>paragraph</p>

Also, what browsers do you see it in? Are you usnig CSS?

Tom

encyclo

12:05 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

You don't mention which browser this happens in, but what you're seeing is the difference between rendering modes on modern browsers such as Mozilla or IE6. You're using a full DOCTYPE, which triggers standards-compliance mode. When no doctype is present, the browser reverts to "Quirks mode", which emulates older browser bugs. Try using a half doctype as a temporary measure whilst investigating the problem:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

Without seeing your markup, I can't say why the horizontal scrollbar appears.

sderenzi

12:52 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm using Internet Exploer v6.0

ergophobe

4:42 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you using CSS? That's why I asked. If using CSS and the browser goes into quirks mode, the rendering will be different in the case of IE6

sderenzi

11:38 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes I'm using CSS, and thank you for the info.

DOCTYPE Problem,

A bottom scrollbar appears because of...

sderenzi

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encyclo

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