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Here’s the shocker, though: in many ways, Bing is better... Google is a habit. Everyone already knows how to work it... But if you value your time, you should give Bing a fling.
Among the qualities David Pogue admires is the ability to find things faster:
Once you hit Enter, however, you can’t help noticing Bing’s more concerted effort to get you answers faster. To minimize the clicking, the hunting, the dead ends.
Using Google is more habit then anything else. That and a vague feeling that their results are best because they are the biggest and most well known.
Google is still the master at pulling out the obscure thread that has the exact answer to your long-tail question.In the searches I do, they used be but lately, more often than not they are not. In fact, some of the searches I do looking for information, where several years ago I'd find it, now all I find is sites wanting to sell me the information on the first and second pages. I have to dig back many pages to find what was once front page material.
Having a single search engine with so much dominance in the industry is not a good thing and while Bing is not a Google killer which MSN has said they didn't intend it to be, it's certainly their best attempt at it yet.
SEO/Webamster people are not going to be the best to judge the results of searches since most often than not those searches are biased by whether or not yours or your clients sites show up.
The searchers who are not webmasters and SEO types are the ones who will determine just how much market share Bing ends up with in the long run.
you want the best answer in the world not a local priority ( not that its a a bad thing) but forcing us to go local, With google you have the .com option.
All depends on your search, if i want information on cars, dating, jobs, shops etc etc you want local results, likewise if you are in the UK and you want to know about say "Birmingham" you want Birmingham second city in the UK not Birmingham Alabama in the US.
Also, UK users for example type google.com when they want want google.co.uk
Out of the three engines i think Yahoo have the best way of dealing with this issue:- if you type yahoo.co.uk or yahoo.com in the UK they default to .co.uk results as standard.
But, on the yahoo.com version that defaults to UK they offer a little USA flag under it so you know that if you want worldwide results just click that to change to yahoo worldwide.
As for Bings default in the UK it works a treat, im no fan of msn but credit where its due, bing is superb.
I think G have currently dropped the ball big style, G have so many good sites filtered out due to one penalty or the other and have over cooked the algo, whilst bing meanwhile delivers on topic results without the fuss or problems - bing now have a real chance of gaining serious traction.
As i see it we all only use Google out of habit, new users dont have that problem and bing from what i see is Google two years ago and its serps are better for it.
The only area where G are currently slightly better than bing is on very, very long tail stuff but Bing are slowly getting there with that now.
Anyway which ever way you look at this, a real contender for G has to be better for webmasters. Its took a long time for msn to deliver this and good to see that they had the foresight to dump the entire previous engine algo they had that was a mess and start from scratch to build an engine that so far is proving to be very effective.
Rich
no option to get true international results
Clicking on the link showing your default country on the top right allows you to specify which country or region you want to see the results for. Easier to see what appears elsewhere and more comprehensive than any of the other majors IMO.
Yahoo and Bing have them listed within a day or two.
For the searches I'm doing, Google's SERPs are stale, and the new pages are old by the time Google has them. Not good.
Bing is a search engine that finds and organizes the answers you need so you can make faster, more informed decisions.
Gee that must annoy Google - (being able to make faster more informed decisions)
Now I suppose to be fair I should "bing" for Google and see what comes up.
"Bing is Better" than Google
I'm getting 2.3% from Bing. A 2.3% increase from what I used to get from MSN. Not enough to be happy with or raise flags about or even friggin' talk about so I won't.
Bing bing...
Actually, objectively I am personally having a difficult time seeing this after searching 10 random high competition phrases.
I see pretty authoritative results to be very honest, and I do not see keyword and sub domain driven results as others have seen.
In fact, in 7 of the 10 higher competition keywords I returned, which are a variation of call to action (ecommerce-based) phrases, information or learning phrases and service based phrases, I am finding results on par with what Google is showing for the exact same phrase. In 4 of the 10 queries I would rate the Bing.com results HIGHER in quality than the Google.com results.
Couple that with the fact that Google is on what appears to be month-long testing, with absolutely no explanation to anyone as to what is going on, and my bet is that it is likely Bing will steal at least a few % points in the upcoming months.
More people need to tell more people and so on and so forth and before you know it, Google will no longer be the 800lb Gorilla.
Exactly what sort of animal is microsoft in this metaphor? Certainly whatever it is would be weighed in tons instead of pounds.
Exactly what sort of animal is microsoft in this metaphor? Certainly whatever it is would be weighed in tons instead of pounds.
Bing will never overtake Google in search. But, if enough people use it, it can help stop Google from having so much of the market and will make it better for all of us.
Right now, Google does not give a rats you know what about Webmasters, SEOs, Good sites, etc..... They have their eye on the dollar even more so than MSN. Eric Schmidt is cut from the same cloth as Steve Balmer and Eric is calling the shots at Google.
MSN has it's downfalls, but Google owning so much of the market share is not good and Bing is the only things that's even come close to being a good alternative.
Competition is good for everybody involved especially us.
Bing will never overtake Google in search. But, if enough people use it, it can help stop Google from having so much of the market and will make it better for all of us.
Never say never my friend! :)
Off course this is partly a matter of taste.
And honestly, this is disappointing to me. As a webmaster I've had it with Google's dominant position and wish Bing would get more users.
On the other hand, Bing might just be "good enough" for most people.
Can anyone else try Blind Search Engine and give results here?
