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I have AWStats and a report of the last 300 referrers through Cpanel for some sites, and for sites that have been ranking for certain phrases all along, if I click through the referring link in the "last 300" I can see that the ranking is the same as it's been all along, and that traffic is coming in as it has been all along - but in all, a very reduced amount for those phrases.
What's interesting is that when I click over to the SERPs from the "last 300," it's actually MSN search, not Live.com and MSN's text on the pages is in Spanish.
If I then go directly to live.com and do the same search, the page is nowhere near the same place, it's dropped down and there's a different set of search results.
I can see the same thing happening with MSN's out-of-U.S. search, like Canada and Australia. They'll have the pages ranked as they've been all along, unlike at live.com where they dropped down several months ago.
This isn't a one time thing, it's been happening consistently for several months.
It may be the same index and the same algo, but all I can deduce about the differences is that there's some filtering going on at the "main" Live.com search that isn't happening elsewhere. The questions would be, what are pages being filtered for, or possibly - what are they lacking that's carrying weight at live.com?
Also, since I've got a few new sites going up and just now being indexed, I'll be monitoring closely because I suspect there's a time factor involved, or that *something* that happens with time is triggering a filter (or filters) that's being applied.
It's identifying what's triggering those filters I'm primarily worried about, enough to actually be *efficient" in logging a timeline and events on new sites, since more than a few sites rank nicely at first and then drop down or out as time goes on. And what I've noticed is that the "foreign" results seem to mirror what the original results were on "main" live.com a while back which I've seen with a cache date at the foreign sites last May compared to more recent cache dates.
>>It would be curious to know if your ranking pattern matches mine
I'll definitely check it out this week and get back to you, and also be glad to share what I notice for newer sites over the next few weeks or months - which is why I've brought this up.
I've got some suspicions, though they're mostly based on hunches, and will be going through some MSN patents and white papers to single out possible factors.
[edited by: Marcia at 12:11 am (utc) on Mar. 11, 2007]
If you go there, what do you see? For me it's in Spanish. :)
For our main keywords we rank awesome in the ca market but horribly for the us market. Why? Contact us page info? Our host is in the US, so it's not ip related. Whois info?
In any case it sucks as our main market is in the US.
Has msn search live messed up other people website position as well? and is there any practical solution to correct this.
I have possibly missed the discussion on this elsewhere on the forum so if someone could kindly explain the above, or point me to a forum area where I will find some kind of logical answer I would appreciate it.
I guess when the new Algo started in Aug 06, some wires got crossed and it did not carry over all pages to new algo.
After submitting my index page to this link, my new pages are being indexed promptly and in the serps in a few weeks.
This might explain the different serps...Old Algo vs. New Algo...
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Searching gives a different result too, placement is what it was quite a while ago, and that's where the traffic is now coming in from for a particular site I'm checking on.
[edited by: Marcia at 10:20 pm (utc) on Mar. 24, 2007]