MSN traffic dropped of 80-100%?

is it me or did a majority of my sites loose MSN traffic

[cl328]

Hello,

just wondering...

With Live Search coming out...
I just checked 10 or so of my sites, my client sites...

the pattern is clear ---

monday same as always
tuesday some up, some down
wednesday little lower
Thurday either 0 or less than 10% of what it was

across the board --- all my sites are "good" quality sites, etc.
sites that I seo, that I'm active with, or that I haven't touched.

either way, all MSN traffic acted the same?

note: the sites get anywhere from 10-20 to 500 a day from MSN

anyone else see this activity?

thanks

[Praxus]

MSN no longer sends referrer info, so you're probably still getting the same traffic; but can no longer tell if its from MSN.

Hopefully msndude can comment on whether this was done on purpose, since a lot of webmasters are unhappy with this.

[Wibfision]

Thanks for that Praxus - I couldn't understand what was going on - seemingly the same traffic, and my site ranks for the same terms - but apparently no hits any longer from MSN. It was as though suddenly everyone used Google.

[WiseWebDude]

I was wondering the same thing. I JUST saw this happening. We see the same thing. But, funny thing is we see more from cc.msnscache.com and now see only some from search.msn.com so something definitely different.

[GameMasterM]

Getting more traffic than ever before. I never see their spider so I haven't a clue how I am getting indexed.
btw- does anyone have knowledge how to get a site into their "new" local engine? I understand Localeze is one way but that has never been confirmed.

[artdog]

My ranking is unchanged since move to Live but conversion has tanked.

[onedodd]

It made my heart jump a bit when I saw my MSN hits go from 435 to 45. I went and checked my keywords and they were all there.

[Marcia]

People don't like change once they get used to something. Not anything drastic, anyway.

[surftrack]

as shown in another topic, they are aware and are working on it.

I just checked my referer logs and am already starting to see a couple of strings every now and then from msn or live (about 1 in 15)

[giuliorapetti]

Technical aspects of why this is happening are on

[webmasterworld.com...]

[jrs_66]

This is more than just referral strings... my traffic is nearly gone in Live... and so are the SERPs

[Bewenched]

Why on earth would they stop sending referer information? Are they hiding something?

[jrs_66]

--- Why on earth would they stop sending referer information? Are they hiding something?

Yeah.. hiding the fact they continue to loose browser market share to firefox and safari.

[dclick]

Still NO referer string a week later?

How long does it take to fix? Is it going through layers of management for approval?

C'mon guys!

[Praxus]

Not surprised there's nothing after a week. They have to pinpoint the problem, then develop a solution, then test it extensively. That doesn't even take into account the various levels of approvals and other red tape that comes with anything done in a large corporation.

Still it would be great to get an update on what happening...

[seoshare]

I can see my SERP moving up in MSN and traffic dropping to 50% this month, also drop in google & Yahoo traffic by 20% even after SERP moving upwards in both, people staying longer on the web pages, conversions more.
But does someone know why there is a drop in all SE's

[Cluttermeleon]

Just to repeat my post from the lost referrer thread - I am now tracking MSN traffic again so looks like the fix has been deployed.