MSN Beta Not showing up?

[WebChicken]

All,

My 2 main sites are not showing up in the Beta. I submited them 2 weeks ago.

I rank really well for the MSN search now. But, sites are no where on Beta.

Any suggestions?

[lizardx]

search.msn has nothing to do with beta.search.msn. They are unrelated, your current msn rankings are yahoo results. How you are doing in beta depends on how your site is, if it has links to it etc.

[WebChicken]

I realize that.

Well- I have a lot of links to it. Lots of content. Just not in Beta!

Submitted to Beta and now waiting. But, that was 2 weeks ago...

How long to wait?

[lizardx]

You shouldn't need to submit your site, no telling if that feature is even really implemented, links to your site should lead msnbot to your pages. No links no bot is my guess.

[csnet]

WebChicken, I would be surprised if there is anything at all "wrong" about your site.

Our site has been listed #1 for 2 key words on the 6 major search engines for almost 2 years running, yet it appears NOWHERE on any MSN beta results page unless I enter site:<my domain name>

After trying numerous other searches having nothing to do with my site, I have concluded that MSN beta is the worst search engine I have ever used, with unusable results that miss most of the valuable information that is available on the net.

There is no published way to correspond with anyone responsible for the beta. My messages to the beta team seem to have gone to a "black hole" and have changed nothing.

So when I see posts such as yours being answered with insinuations that there is probably something wrong with your site, I must respond that you are not alone in non-placement.

Judging from the small samples I have tried, MSN beta is excluding 30-70% of sites that rank highly on the other search engines. They rank highly on the other search engines because the sites are most relevant to the keywords entered by the user and provide the user with access to information about the keyword subjects and links to other sources of hard to find information that may not rank highly in the search engines.

In other words, the other 6 search engines work reasonably well, with Google usually the weakest of the 6. By comparison, the MSN beta at this stage appears to be nothing more than broken software designed to elicit support from a narrow spectrum of web users without regard to the usefulness of the bizarre SERPs foisted on the general Internet public.

[WebChicken]

Thanks csnet - I am in the same boat I guess. 2 of my (PR6 and PR5) sites are just not there.

Guess I will just have to wait and see...

[Hanu]

One of my sites is oscillating between #1 and #20 on MSN Beta in two week periods. MSN Beta Serps still change radically from time to time in my area.

[kevinpate]

> still change radically

and for some, that msn's 'product' is still in
beta is a very good thang
(so says one of the not yet convinced)