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beta site:www.******.es gives higher number today.

Anybody else seen this

         

OddDog

3:30 pm on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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in the beta the site comand is now giving me a substanial increase in pages indexed (+1000 increase).

i have also seen a substantial change in the serps in the beta.

anybosy else can confirm this?

northweb

7:42 pm on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, i completed many searches in both google.com and beta msn. All shopping related, gift and local.

Google had very little content related to local markets. Unless, i wanted to purchase from a directory of everything located #$$%@!

beta msn retrieved local businesses, some with sites others in a LOCAL directory. There is no comparion who has the best results and you start targeting local markets + product, etc.

csnet

8:17 pm on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't know why comparisons with Google are being made. Google is as bad as this MSN beta search engine in many respects.

Try this:

Make sure MSN beta is set to your exact city under settings and save it.

Search for lumber yard

The MSN beta returned a lumber yard in Michigan and other scattered lumber yards, but nothing close to me in California.

Go to Yahoo Search

Click "Local"

Enter Lumber Yard in the Search text box, your zip code in the location box, and click search.

The results were the 2 lumber yards closest to me complete with links to maps and driving directions.

I went back to MSN beta and tried:

lumber yard <my zip code>
lumber yard <my city name>

I got web sites with photos of lumber yards, arts council meeting at a lumber yard, and not one single actual lumber yard. None. Zip. Nada.

Now guess which search engine I will use the next time I want to shop locally?

MSN beta, like Google, is a terrible search engine for everything I have tried so far.

helenp

12:11 am on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Msn, are showing an different serp right now, that is not similar as Yahoo at all, as yesterday, the repeated domains and subdomains seems to be better, but still show up several results for same domain, but a lot better.

Tigrou

6:47 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Actually, I have to take back what I said about Google providing equal quality listings to MSN Beta in my area. Looking at "keyword keyword" it is fine. Looking at "keyword keyword country", MSN Beta provides fine results while Google has unmitigated crap.

While MSN Beta has content rich, useful pages for users. In contrast, Google decides to rank in the first few slots doorway pages with Adsense as the very first thing on the page. No navigation. Outbound links through redirects. Even the page content seems to be pieced together from a DB of semi-random paragraphs. (with appropriate keyword replacement)

It takes to about result 7 to get to something that is actually RELEVANT and USEFUL to the user. (It's a competitor so don't accuse me of selfish bias)

The sweetest bit on this is that the 2nd result is about the technology to colonize a neighbouring planet, yet content was obviously just glued on regarding travel (on our planet obviously). And that content ranks well in competitive areas. The Sandbox helps increase relevance and decrease spam in SERPs? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...C'mon...

The other twist is that with the yahoo update, they have it "right" as well. Not as good as MSN Beta, but average user has maybe 7 valid options out of 10. Far better than the crap-ladden "Glue-smell" results above. (Good effort Tim, it's coming along!)

Get it together G, as "king" you have a responsiblity to your users. For now, I'm recommending Yahoo until MSN Beta launches...at least in my area...

Colin

[edited by: Tigrou at 7:07 pm (utc) on Dec. 18, 2004]

Dayo_UK

6:52 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)



Yep - msn beta is looking impressive.

With the disaster that is currently happening at Google would be a good time to launch.

northweb

9:13 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I work with a large isp, we're switching from Google to msn once it goes live.

MLHmptn

10:31 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I work with a large isp, we're switching from Google to msn once it goes live.

Hopefully many more large ISP's will follow suit! Would be nice to see comcast, at&t, earthlink, aol, etc. do the same thing.

Bring the heat MSN & Yahoo!

MLHmptn

soapystar

10:32 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I work with a large isp, we're switching from Google to msn once it goes live.

that says it all. A large ISP is going to switch on the basis of results it hasnt yet seen. Brilliant piece of forward thinking.

csnet

11:05 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MLHmptn, now that MSN beta is back to blocking sites, any ideas why? With the link I sent to your inbox a couple days ago, I'd appreciate if you would take a look at some of the sites that make page 1 on all the other search engines, sites that are being completely excluded from MSN beta. Thanks.

MLHmptn

8:56 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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csnet,

Check your inbox. A few suggestions as to what will help you with your site in msn search. Utilize them for a week and see what happens. Check cache date on msn to make sure it has grabbed your new page and get back with me on results :>~

MLHmptn

csnet

9:10 am on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have replied to your message. Thank-you for taking the time to review the site and for your excellent suggestions.
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