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Bizzare problem with older server

I know Appleshare is obsolete but...

         

lZakl

4:07 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



One of our older servers (an ancient G4 550mhz with, can you believe it, OS 9) is having a funny problem. I cannot for the life of my figure this out. Of course this server is being replaced (hopefully) by a G5 within 2 months. It is the last (thus least important) upgrade to OS X Server Edition. It is currently running (now bite your lip, this is good) Appleshare IP v6.3! It works, though you wouldn’t want it to be a main file server though.

My problem:

I can connect from all computers just fine. OS X, OS 9, it doesn’t matter. However when I connect with administrative privileges, from an OS X machine, and I am using an application in the Classic Environment on that same machine, when I look on the server, it shows nothing. No files, folders, just empty. Weird! If am using an X application, I see everything, all files, folders, apps, everything! Heres the kicker, if I take admin privileges away from the account, it all works in Classic! This is by far the strangest occurrence I have seen on my system here.

I have a feeling that it will take someone familiar with this antiquated system to let me know what’s happening here. Any thought’s? This machine is going to be replaced, however this is a riddle, and I love a good riddle!

-- Zak

timster

8:00 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



My guess is Apple locked administrator account deliberately as a security measure.

Here's some chat about how you used to be able to be able exploit classic to ignore some Mac OS X security.

"Classic appears to disregard UNIX file permissions"
[macintouch.com ]

I think Apple responded to this by locking admin users out entirely.

So then the Apple guy says...
"Create an additional, non-administrative account and use that for all of your day-to-day work."
[developer.apple.com ]

lZakl

10:47 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Very interesting read! I am afraid I mis-stated the conundrum though.

OS9 Server Asigned Users:
User: Zak has user privledges
User: Admin has admin privledges

OSX End-User Computer:
Sign onto local account on PC as Johndoe with "user privledges"
Sign into server as either Zak or Admin

While I am signed in as Johndoe:

If (signed into Server as 'Zak')
{
can see all server files and directories from X apps;
can see all server files and directories from 9 apps;
}

If (signed into Server as 'Admin')
{
can see all server files and directories from X apps;
can't see anything, not even the "publicly shared folder" from 9 apps;
}

hehe, I tested this, and it only happens on my machine. (D2Ghz with lates OS X.3.8). I can sign into the server as 'Admin' from any other PC's Classic Applications and see what I need to see. Just mine has a problem, and everyone else running the same sys as me is fine? Strange stuff man... Too strange for me to figure out.

Thanks for your input Timster, I really do appreciate the reply. That does make a very interesting read though, like I said. But I think it has more to do with access to content from within the same computer, from Classic to OSX Not from computer-to-server. To be honest, I don't really understand Classic all that well anymore, so... I need a refresher anyway! lol

-- Zak