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creating MS-DOS txt files with MS-Word for a Mac?

how to get rid of Word header?

         

Robert Charlton

7:06 am on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm working with a writer who's using MS-Word on a Mac, and I need her to send me drafts in ASCII txt files attached to emails, so I can work with them in a text editor on my Windows-based PC.

She tells me she's saving the files in Word as ASCII text with no carriage returns, as I've asked... But when I receive them from her, I'm getting the file in two parts. The first is a binary file that looks like it's the header of an MS-Word document, about 444 bytes, and the second is the clean ASCII text file I want.

The problem is that the second file is getting renamed... no big thing for one message... lots of wasted time when you're contemplating 50 to 100.

Can anyone suggest how to get just a straightforward txt file, with no Word header, from Word for the Mac?

jim_w

11:29 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Robert

What I am saying is you should not have to get the file as a text file. You should just be able to get the file as a WORD file and PCWord should ignore the resource fork information, etc. This means that all files would have the same name.

>>she sees a vertical rectangle at the beginning of each line following a carriage break

Does she have show all formatting marks? under menu option (tools- options)on?

Also if they are using the Summary and Statistics information, under menu option (file-properties) that may be keeping you from just swapping WORD files as WORD files. Just a guess.

bodine

2:56 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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...carriage returns... but why at the beginning of the lines rather than at the ends, and how can she eliminate these?

Close. Actually, it is showing you the line-feed that DOS text has. So, the carriage return (the end-of-line character for Mac text) tells SimpleText to go to the next line, and there is this goofy character it does not know what to do with, so it displays it as a square.

They should use BBEdit to open your files, or, if they are cheap, BBEdit lite. BBEdit takes care of that formatting automatically.

http*://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml

Robert Charlton

7:04 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually, it is showing you the line-feed that DOS text has....

bodine - Thanks. :)

What I am saying is you should not have to get the file as a text file. You should just be able to get the file as a WORD file and PCWord should ignore the resource fork information, etc. This means that all files would have the same name.

jim_w - If you will re-read the thread I think you'll see that I have covered this point numerous times, even responding directly to you... Thus, my confusion.

I don't want to work in Word. I want text files to work in an ASCII text editor, as I have described. Please re-read my first message, #1, #11, and #27. My message #11 went into my preferences and the reasons for them in depth. I don't mean to sound ungrateful for your input, but what wasn't clear?

jim_w

7:36 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can then save them as a text file on your end and it should have the same file name with the .txt extension.

Robert Charlton

7:46 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can then save them as a text file on your end and it should have the same file name with the .txt extension.

If I'd wanted to take the time to do this, it probably would have been faster simply to rename the text files I was getting. Hitting right-click and then Rename, or just renaming while moving the file, is a heck of a lot faster than opening up Word and doing a Save As > File Type.

jim_w

7:50 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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depends on how long and complex the file name is. Like with rev numbers, etc. Since I don't know what the file names are, I could not say if it would help or not without posting it. If file name is 123 your right, if file name is ...

Prop_2345.123_2nd_Rev

maybe not.

Robert Charlton

7:52 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For whatever reasons, only the version numbers at the end of the file were getting changed. The rest remained the same. Thanks again for all your input.
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