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sitewide linking question

seems like a great opportunity I stumbled across

         

JoeHouse

8:05 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I need some opinions. After weeks of research on sitewide links I came across a very interesting site that is offering advertisments on their homepage (which is a PR8) and included in that is run of site text link with your preferred keyord on their left side nav bar.

They have thousands of pages that my link would appear on it and amazingly enough many of these pages have a PR 6 or better.

They are a bit pricey asking 1000.00 a month. They only take 30 advertisers at a time. I have checked each and every one of their advertisers listed on this site.

Each and everyone have thousands of links pointing from this site and all these sites advertising have a PR of 5 or more.

Out of the 30 half of them are on most of the 1st page of the serps for their chosen keyword in their anchor text. None seem to be penalized because of the reputation of the site they are advertising on.

Their is only one site that is not listed on the 1st page of the serps because from what I found it is a newbie site and I have a feeling they may be filtered until their site matures.

My question is this. After hearing everything I have just told you, would you take the plunge and shell out the 1k a month for these type of results.

Has anybody had any similar experience they can share with me regarding this? How did it turn out for you?

Thanks!

Eltiti

8:33 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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would you take the plunge and shell out the 1k a month for these type of results

Personally, I wouldn't --I think the $1000/month could be spent much more wisely...

BTW, if it's just the "PR5" you're after, that certainly wouldn't justify spending 1K/mo IMO!

<added>Actually, it would depend on the type of KWP that the advertisers rank well for; if they are highly competitive, and the rankings really seem to be caused (primarily) by the ROS ads, it may be worth a second look...</added>

makeyourlifesuper

10:25 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In Spain we say; "To be a bullfighter, you first have to learn how to be a bull". Translated; web wide links with the SAME anchor text is not really natural :-)

If you don't get "punished" for it now, you might get later.

Also, I would advise to contact some advertisers, to ask them whether they had these top 10 positions already PRIOR to advertising on this web AND how many visitors they actually get from this web, as such should be an important ingredient to consider as well for your investment decision.

texasville

2:19 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Consider how long it would take for google to pay any attention to it and then possibly how long they would wait to attribute it. Seems they have a "ripening" factor in their algo. You might have to shell out 3-4 months before it actually took effect. That's 3-4k investment right there. Are you in this for the long haul? It's 12k a year. Think you will see a justified return? If so go for it. Just remember, the minute you lose that link-you will lose the pr and pr doesn't always translate to serps.

vitaly

8:13 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My experience tells me that G will probably decrease your site in SERPs for several months. I fully agree with the idea that

... fast link acquisition may be a strong indicator of potential search engine Spam.

Gone are the days of pages and pages full of links. You must grow your links slowly to stay below the radar and be careful who you exchange links with. That means no more buying hundreds of links at once or other underhand tactics.

I have several destination-specific travel sites and one site that includes all US destinations (let's say site A). About a month ago I put links form all the pages of site A relating to a destination B pointing to the homepage of a site devoted to the destination B. Now the site about destination B almost completely dropped from Google. There were no other changes with that site.

So I think you should consider buying the links only if you are going to have them 6 months or longer.

JoeHouse

12:26 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ok I understand your point and they are valid, but here is what I am getting at.

This site that I am linking from is respected worldwide and search engines (you know the ones) absolutely love this site. Every advertiser has backlinks a mile long and all (except one because he has no real content on his pages) is top ten for their chosen anchor text on most major engines.

No one has been penalized or banned. I even called several of the advertisers and the ones I talked with love this site as well because it has done wonders for their rankings.

They only take 30 advertisers at a time and they place them in there perm navigation bar (not footer). There are thousands and thousands of pages.

In fact you have to go through a screening process and a background check on you and your website before they will even consider you as an advertiser.

There is something to say for that, and that is respectiblility.

At the moment I am and have been in the sandbox for months because my site is only 8 months old.

My point is there are larger companies out there that are taking advantage advertising on well respected authority sites and none of them are beening penalized for it.

So if I was lucky enough to get in why wouldn't the same happen for my site when I am out of the box?

I do realize I am rolling the dice here but I did my homework and I think its a chance worth taking.

Thanks for listening!

buksida

8:22 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is an interesting one of which I am on both sides of. I work for an extremely popular PR7 site that does well from text link advertising.

I have also created a new site that is 6 months old and although it has a PR5 its still sandboxed. I have used the PR7 site to help my new one gain PR.

I would say that having these links to you and whatever SEO you do wont matter, Google will dig you out of the sand when they are ready so I personally wouldnt spend any money on it. For what I have seen and read theres nothing you can do about the dreaded sandbox.

JoeHouse

5:18 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Agreed. But I am not doing this in hopes I get out of the sandbox sooner, even though that would be nice.

Its when they do decided to let me out hopefully I would get a nice boost from this in regards to rank and serps.

Thanks!

vitaly

4:51 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That is why you're better off paying for a link AFTER your site is out of the sandbox.

You will save several months of advertisement.

Lorel

8:32 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There is such a big danger of getting banned for site wide links that I took off all inside links to my site off all my client's sites and just left it on the home pages.