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eugene2006

9:10 am on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thousands of keywords issue
I have about 250 000 keywords on word hotel and I want to by cheap traffic from 0.01 USD from adwords
How do I do that without getting banned from adwords?
I want to direct this traffic to my webpage where I show affiliate link to hotelclub.com and in left frame I show adsense
Is there a way out? Any ideas?

chinara

1:45 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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0.01 yeah right - You are dreaming! You will be lucky to buy the traffic for 0.05. Frame, affiliate links, Adsence. They will filter you in no time!

eugene2006

2:26 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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sorry i did not get your point,
please tell me how to fill all these words into adwords without getting banned

netmeg

2:54 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I don't think you're quite in the right place for what you want to do. Also, your domain will no doubt be filtered out, as we do not discuss specifics here.

eugene2006

3:55 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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so you are saying i cant use my keywords in adwords at full extent and it is illegal?

beesticles

4:15 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you implement the plan you've described, your minimum bids will be at $10 within no time. As Chinara says, frames, affiliate links and adsense are like a red rag to Google's quality score bull.

eugene2006

4:29 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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i understand but i really dont care about price, bid or whatever
my main thing is to fill adwords with 250 000 words and not get banned
how do i do that?

poster_boy

4:45 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have about 250 000 keywords on word hotel and I want to by cheap traffic from 0.01 USD from adwords
How do I do that without getting banned from adwords?

The number of keywords in your account is not, in and of itself, a driver in getting banned. Now, I do think that your minimum CPC will be significantly higher than $0.01... but, you won't get "banned" unless you're breaking a TOS.

AdWordsAdvisor

6:00 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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...i really dont care about price, bid or whatever my main thing is to fill adwords with 250 000 words and not get banned how do i do that?

I am going to generalize here for a minute - speaking only to the question of the number of keywords, and leaving the issue of Quality Score and minimum bid aside entirely.

Every account will have a maximum number of keywords which may be used, account wide. This number is not the same for every account, and, simply stated, one can think of it as something that varies according to how successfully keywords are being used in the account.

In brand new accounts, the number will be lower than in established accounts - and I suspect it will be far lower than a quarter of a million keywords.

When an advertiser comes near to this limit, they'll be notified. At this point, the advertiser may contact AdWords support and request that the limit be raised - but they will need to make a compelling case as to why they need that number of keywords. The team that will make a decision on the request will take a close look at the account in question to see if keywords are being used in an effective way. If the are, then an increase in the limit may well be possible. If they are not, the request for an increase will be declined.

Why are there limits? More info on the page below, from the AdWords Help Center.

How do I manage the number of keywords in my account?
[adwords.google.com...]

Here is a key part of the text, excerpted from the above page - with italics added by me:

To ensure that accounts do not place unnecessary load on our advertising servers, we ask that you keep the overall number of keywords in your account to a manageable size. When you approach an unmanageable amount of active keywords, we'll place a notice within your account and request that you refine your keyword list and remove unnecessary keywords. In most cases, a handful of well-targeted keywords will deliver the majority of your relevant clicks, and there is no need to create hundreds or thousands of keywords. [...]

AWA

<edit> clarified an awkward sentance </edit>

[edited by: AdWordsAdvisor at 6:04 pm (utc) on Sep. 17, 2007]

BDuns

6:08 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Seriously, what the heck is the question here?

You get a keyboard, hook it up to the computer, set up a campaign THEN START TYPING keywords that are relevant to your site or product.

Duh.

eugene2006

6:26 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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ok thats and idea so i try to filter and reduce keywords number up to 50 000 but this is only one topic "HOTEL"
I have many other affiliates programmes like "RINGTONE" "INSURANCE" and so forth, and all of these topic have hundreds of thousands of words, any way i ll have to create multiple accounts to fit them all
so each account has one topic, but google does not like this as i have heard,
so how do i overcome this problem without getting myself banned in adwords, AWA?

poster_boy

6:36 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have many other affiliates programmes like "RINGTONE" "INSURANCE" and so forth, and all of these topic have hundreds of thousands of words, any way i ll have to create multiple accounts to fit them all

Sounds like you're trying to run before you walk, Eugene... I'd start small. Find a handful of keywords that convert per affiliate program - then expand from there. Starting off with hundreds of thousands of keywords without a place to put them or a thought regarding relevancy will leave you with a lot of disabled keywords, astronomical min bids, lost spend, and a raging headache.

pageoneresults

6:37 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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From AWA above...

When an advertiser comes near to this limit, they'll be notified. At this point, the advertiser may contact AdWords support and request that the limit be raised - but they will need to make a compelling case as to why they need that number of keywords. The team that will make a decision on the request will take a close look at the account in question to see if keywords are being used in an effective way. If the are, then an increase in the limit may well be possible. If they are not, the request for an increase will be declined.

Go through the normal channels and then request that your account limit be increased.

eugene2006

7:53 pm on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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well ok guys, i ll fill up my account with hotel words up to 50 000 then filter them down, then add new block of words then filter and so on....
but, AWA, could i create another account for doing the same stuff to lets say new topic RINGTONE?
if i use MMC/advertiser mode, will you allow me to that? what do you think of this as a adwords technician