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$ 18.000.000 a year?
Where do ya get ya burger man?
As you understand Brokenbricks is an imposter.
I of course, am the 18.000.000 dollar man...
OddDog, congratulations on your success. However, now that you made $5,000 a month from AdSense it's quite easy to step forward. I bet you'll make $10,000+ a month within a very short time. Just re-invest the money you earn on good traffic domain names and/or websites. Sometimes you can get parked domains for cheap and they turn out to be real gems after being developed into an AdSense site.
Sincerely,
dodo1
Maybe I'm in the wrong niche, maybe my writing stinks, maybe...
I don't know, but I am sure I can do better. Any ideas, sticky me. My site is in my profile.
I seem to be spinning my wheels and I know I should be making more than $10/day.
[edited by: fearlessrick at 8:35 pm (utc) on Oct. 3, 2005]
People who make 10/day set a goal of 100/day, people who make 100/day dream of 1,000/day people at 1k/day dream of 10k/day and so on...
People at 10/day can't believe that people make 1000/day people at 100/day can't imagine people make 10k/day etc.. You will see this pattern repeated over and over in these forums, this is probably the reason most of the big players don't bother posting.
Loose lips sink ships, I know. But speaking for myself, my motivation would double just knowing that such success was achieved using white hat techniques. I figure if you are succeeding because you work hard at creating good content in good niches, then you should be proud of that and wave your white hat.
But doubling my motivation might increase the risk of my becoming competition for you, wouldn't it? Wow, I don't even have a site yet and I'm thinking like a successful publisher... ;)
I just looked for a few seconds and it gave me a headache! That blinking sky on the right is terrible.
Adsense sandwiched in (read lost) in the middle of the left side is also not optimal. I would make a lot of changes on that page in ad placements and types of ads. The flashing made me leave so that was as far as I got.
Your subject could easily bring in some nice, well paying ads but only if your visitors can stay long enough and the ads are not hidden from them
Remember---visitors won't hunt for the ads, ads must find them and in good taste and low key...but OBVIOUS.
Good luck
Ann
I am sorry you feel that way.
There are a number of scrapers that hang around boards like these and even join as members, to get the URLs of the better, money making and popular sites just to scrape their content and ruin the sites value and standing in the serps for their own greed.
I used to put mine in my profile until I got a rude awakening...so think what you please.
I hope you do slave over your computer 18 to 20 hours a day building one then you will know why we value ours so highly, and I bet you will value yours just as high.
Anyway welcome to the board.
Ann
Thanks for you explanation which seems very reasonable and echoes my concerns about revealing my web site URL.
I have often wondered how one of the respected and frequent contributors to this forum is quite open about revealing his web site. I won't name him other than to say his site is about travel. I wonder how he protects himself against scraping and similar abuse? Are there lessons we could learn from him about defending our content?
I have been scrapped on my smaller site so often that when I became aware of it I had some knocked off their ISP's and rewrote the entire site. It is still around page 5 in the serps and doesn't seem as if it will ever recover.
I know we must advertise and get our URLs out there but it is senseless to drop it into a pool where there are sharks trolling daily.
Wish I could give you a better answer but I can't. Maybe some others will be able to.
Ann
I just looked for a few seconds and it gave me a headache! That blinking sky on the right is terrible.
That blinking sky accounted for a pageview and that's $$ in my book. I run CPM besides adsense CPC ads.
I disagree with just about everything you said. I used to tell my writers that they were only taking up space so we could surround them with ads. That kept them humble and committed.
My point is that ads can be garish and obnoxious even, and they will work if the content is strong enough. It's all about content (well, mostly, anyway). Where you place your ads should be more of an afterthought instead of the most important thought.
Ever heard of relevance, intelligence or importance? These concepts seem to be lost on a large segment of the AdSense loyalists.
The ads should work on their own accord, without "blending" (read: making them not look like ads) or any other mind-numbing site gymnastics.
Most of the people around here have never even heard of David Ogilvy, so why trust their judgment, or yours?
Scraping is far different from scrapping.
The English Language. Learn it.
(The prreceding message was brought to you by people who give a damn.)
hey, why has someone deleted my post on page 3 or so.. or is "awesome" a bad word?
Amateur
If I had a nickle for every post that was deleted in here I could buy another pint of beer at the pub.
Who am I kidding, with that many nickles I could personally buy all the beer consumed at PubCon, just ask Woz :)
Surely OddDog wears a white hat, right OddDog? ;)
ann: i guess you are into web design. don't take that personally. criticizing their work this way sounds a bit harsh to some people. it's his site at least. leave him happy with it ;)
i find, the op is sparing a bit with information.
good night for now, hoping to read some more answers.
No problem. Just thought I would offer a help or at least a help to the best I could.
I find that when you put your visitors first and your money earning 2nd then you earn even more money.. A tested, working theory.
No, Mr. Wampus, I do not think I missed the point. But be that as it may I will let others comment on it since I seem to be saying all the wrong things tonight I will just shut up for awhile.
Ann
in fact I am not a programmer, just xhtml 1.0 validated clean code, no funny business for the SE´s just straight SEO stuff.
I run 3 sites.
2 niche sites, one in spannish, the other 2 in english.
am purchasing quality content written by a practicing attorney for a new project ( got lots of good feelings about this one!). This site will launch at the end of the month with approx 100 pages of great, useful how to guides for a very nice niche. With most of the content as evergreen content. :)
it is possible.
as for my pearl of wisdom, it is test, test and test again for adsense placement ect.
find a niche, and build good content, then test, test and test again.
I wear a white hat and it has taken me almost a year and a half to get to about 5k a month. If my niche was not so low paying(5 cent clicks are very common in mine), 6 months would have been VERY feasible.
But, I didn't choose my niche, my genetics chose it for me. It's possible to make money online with just about any niche, if you love what you do and do what you love. I'll tell you a little story about how I got here...
Since I was 3 years old, I have loved making widgets. Red widgets, blue widgets, widgets covered with sequins... widgets have always been my passion. I quit school at 15(with my parents permission) to move to New York and begin my widget making career. My parents even arranged the trip.
A rocky start, but about 10 years later I owned a very successful company selling my specialty widgets. Business was booming, but frankly, I was tired of making the widgets. Success continued and over the years I tried hiring people to make the widgets for me, but their widgets were never as good as mine. I couldn't find enough people in my area with a passion for widget making, nobody cared about the attention to detail needed to create a truly high quality widget. I became disappointed with the products my company was producing and started thinking about getting out of the widget making business.
Then, one day, I discovered Adsense. I thought to myself, wow, with a worldwide audience, I know I can find people who love widgets as much as I do and really care about the attention these widgets need. I would no longer be limited to my local resources. So, I closed down shop and gave up my business for Adsense.
Next, this really happened... my family had me committed to a mental hospital where I was detained for about 10 days. They thought I had lost my marbles. "How will you ever make money just giving away the information it has taken you many, many years of experience to learn?"... "Make money by giving away your knowledge, delusional!"... "Teach your sisters the offline business instead and just take a commission", they said. In those 10 days, I filled up many notepads that I would later publish online. Today, I am a successful web publisher, IMHO.
With regards URLs in profile... It's not the newbies people want protecting from but the old Bs. :) From the questions you ask, the comments you make, the areas you frequent, the threads you enter you are saying a lot about yourself. Not potent in itself but combine that with knowledge of your URL and that information could instantly become a weapon. (It's not fear of scrapers - I never understood that argument - as a scraper doesn't have incentive to scrape your site just because it's in your profile. )