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Vindictive Competitors

         

FatLane

12:53 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I really do not know too much about the inner workings of AdSense. I have an account and have been running ads on a couple of hobby sites for a couple of years.

I have a business web site that I'm sure will do really well with AdSense. I'm reluctant to put ads on the site because of my competition.

Things are known to get ugly and cutthroat within my industry, especially among the local competition. I've already had a couple of attacks on my web site who I believe (but cannot prove) was put on by my biggest rival.

So here is my question. Does Google have any measures in place to protect me from my competition "click attacking" my Google ads in an attempt to have my account shut down?

It is my understanding that there is no appeal process once you lose your account (do not know for sure though).

aeiouy

1:33 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have never seen a substantiated account for anyone losing their account because of such attacks.

Google does have elaborate and sophisticated fraud detection methods.

People who tell you, you are at the mercy of anybody who decides to click on your ads is simply trying to scare you.

As for the appeal process, that is not true either. You can always appeal a decision. The reality is Google only bans people from adsense for egregious violations.

FatLane

6:35 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the reply. It's most helpful and encouraging.

techiemon

9:50 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What about a competitor that steals your ad terminology?

frox

10:36 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You can always appeal a decision.

You can appeal, but the chances to be re-instated are really little.

I know of two cases only this happened, maybe three (in one case this was stated in a very dubious way, and the poster never clarified.

On the other hand, one case I PERSONALLY know

- European webmaster with successful adsense site since 2 years with abt $1.500/mo income.

- finds exact replica of contents in east european Adsense site.

- emails Adsense, thief's site shows no more ads (presumably banned).

- 3 days later, sudden surge in CTR and anomalous stats.

- webmaster's account disabled.

- despite all the homework being done (including proof of the above and offer to send server logs) he never succeeded to get from Google more than a canned email response, and never got re-instated.

My impression is that the only chance you have to get re-instated is if you have a HUGE account, years of history and you know your personal Adsense representative.

For the others, it's somehow of a gamble.

So... diversify, diversify, diversify!

bts111

10:50 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think that you need a massive account to save your a$$. I presume that Google may look at the site or network and decide if it will be a good long term partnership.

I agree that diversification is the only way to go. Always have a back up plan. And that does not mean waiting for Yahoo to get out of beta.

europeforvisitors

11:41 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



I presume that Google may look at the site or network and decide if it will be a good long term partnership.

Try to look at it from an AdSense employee's point of view. Does the site have intrinsic value for the user? Would it have a reason to exist without AdSense? Does the publisher have a clean, established track record with the AdSense network? If so, the site is more likely to pass the "sniff test" than a site that obviously was designed to bring in some quick, easy income with AdSense.

Of course, other factors may come into play, too. But I'd guess that, in the vast majority of cases, it's pretty easy to look at a suspect site and decide whether it enhances or detracts from the value of the AdSense network.

OptiRex

2:05 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)



Things are known to get ugly and cutthroat within my industry, especially among the local competition.

What on earth do you Californians get up to warranting such behaviour?

Are you all overstocked on cheap Chinese/Indonesian/Vietnamese products or something?

If things are that cutthroat why not do something different or is your definition of cutthroat making 200% GP instead of 500%?