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Now I'm learning more and playing around with placement, type, color, etc. In the last few days I've seen a big increase in earnings, which is good (I hope it lasts).
I've been reading the forums and find them useful-- and some very inspiring. I like the fact that most people are helpful, unlike some boards.
I guess my biggest question is, is it possible to be making a lot more with Google ads? Like $100 a day or more?
I'm just running 1 website, but it's ranked well for its keywords. It has about 250 pages, mostly articles and content created by me.
I don't own tons of websites or thousands of pages... what is a realistic goal? How much could I really make with Google AS?
What's the most important thing for me to do? Work hard and write new articles etc.? Or work on link exchanges to bring in more visitors? Or keep playing with the ads (and how long is best to wait between changes)?
Thanks so much!
I know about & like my website's 'niche' area. I seem to have a pretty good return visitor rate. Some of my visitors have been coming to my site for years.
(Too bad I haven't had adsense for years... I started when I was 14 and did it just for fun).
Thanks for your tips :D
So I dont think you can say its best to concentrate only about one area, but try to use a little work on it all.
And its deffintly possbly to earn more than 100$ pr day, lots of people are earning 15.000+ a month
Thanks! That is great-- but is anybody earning that much with just 1 site, when they are the only person creating content?
Thanks in advance
[edited by: genesislogic at 6:35 pm (utc) on Aug. 8, 2005]
I wonder if it gets easier as you go along-- easier to go from $50/day to $100/day than $5/day to $15.....
I have PHPbb too. I don't know where I'd put the ads in-- just on the forum main page I guess, it seems to be the only place I can get the ads in.
Thanks for your help! This board is great :D
Now I just need to figure out how to get GoogleAds on every forum page, not just the index page...
I have PHPbb too. I don't know where I'd put the ads in-- just on the forum main page I guess, it seems to be the only place I can get the ads in.
I use SM, but I assume someone had this problem before with phpBB.
Our competitor uses frames and in the footer with phpBB. You need to access the php code, but since you don't seem to realise this, it might be good to check for a webpage that gives you a detailed howto.
I think SM is good as it's kinda greyish and colour rotation makes the ads visible.
I just realized something-- Google does not want ads displaying on login pages; so that might be a problem! I am sure there is some way to not display ads on those pages...
10 hours a day? lol
Try 18 to 20. Getting started with big ambitions takes long hours in the beginning. You are not punching a clock here, 'the man' is not cracking the whip so forget the short poor man's days of only 10 hours. You are 'the man', and your 'whip' comes from within.
I have been working 18 to 20 hour days, 7 days a week, for the past 6 years, and not quite that length of hours for 7 years before that, while working one, two or three jobs at the same time... over 50,000 hours at it. What have I accomplished?
At this point we have a very nice full time income for two people. The second full time job created over a year and a half ago. On top of that we have added a part-time contractor to our team, in the last month, and we are still searching for another, thanks to Adsense.
The key is not only long hours, but creative flow, vision, and a strong desire to achieve short range, mid range, and long range goals, with an eye for detail. If you love golf, the beach, and having a life, this is going to be very hard for you. It is very hard to keyboard while swinging a club, and when the sand blows on the beach, it gets into the keyboard. (pool side under an umbrella is much better)
When others play, you 'work'. When others stress over bills, you have none, when others wonder what retirement will be like and how many more years they will have to work, you retire early.
It is not as bad as it sounds. We travel when we want, and we travel often. We work from wherever we are the moment, and have money to enjoy those things that give us the greatest pleasure.
There are constantly new challenges to face and overcome. Never a dull moment. And if things do get dull, the odd time.... you just click on over here to WW and browse the threads...never a dull moment here with a truck load of people who get testy over thin air, caffeine freaks who have more conspiracy theories than the national scandal rags, and kiddie mini brains who come a gunning for prey like cyber rambos. ( I see one lurking in the corner over there ready to take aim at me for that comment ) Thank God for the kinder gentler breed that float about like dark clouds, casting the rambos into the shadows, where they belong. It is all very amusing, often educating, and frequently thought provoking. When you get lucky...just one heck of good belly rolling laugh.
But, heck, I'm an old woman, somebody's grandma. What do I know? ;)
If you want to work 10 hour days, take some advice form an old woman. Keep working for the man.
Welcome to WW.
I started in April, wasted a month bouncing around $2/day. Started putting in hours every day (7 days a week), grew to $500 for July, and am on plan to grow by $200 a month through the end of the year. After that, I'll have to figure the next major jump.
It's tempting to steal time from other business endeavors (I manage internet marketing for a half dozen travel clients and have a few other irons in the web fire) but you have to always remember: Google can pull the plug at any time.
Sorry to ramble on. We grandfathers do that.
When you say 'work', does that mean writing content and articles? Sometimes it takes quite a while, I've found, to thoroughly research content for a new article. Sometimes I wonder if I'm silly for spending so much time staying up late writing original stuff when other people just buy, borrow, steal, or 'scrape' it. But I figure hard work creating an original site will eventually pay off...
And I've always wondered-- does spending 10 hrs/day have any bad effect on your health-- do you get headaches or anything? I spend a lot of time online and worry that it might hurt my eyes-- I have been told to take breaks every 30 mins to look outside etc. to rest the eyes.
Thanks!
Talk about not living for the moment!
Does anyone else find this incredibly sad? Yea he might be able to retire sooner but has wasted so much of his life getting there. What a waste.
Not the sort of person I'd want to spend the night down the pub with either.
Well, it is like this. Everytime I go shopping somebody sneezes on me. Yesterday at the gym a woman with a deep croupy cough followed me around until I decided it would be safer to leave, and when I worked for the man I came in close contact every moment with a sector of society known for a wide range of communicable disases. Once I leave my property, I come in contact with more second hand smoke from addicts and things their filthy hands have touched than I care to list. Frankly, I am more worried about my health everytime I leave my home, than I am sitting here in my big cozy office chair working at these machines.
'Working' 18 hours days doesn't mean we don't move around, don't get me wrong. I am at the gym everyday without fail, for one hour. During the day, I am up to fill my coffee cup, check the snail mail, and do other things. But all during that time, I am indeed working. We retreat to our nice rural back deck for coffee often when we have every machine uploading. There, meetings are actually taking place, as we discuss what has been done that far in the day, and things yet to be done. We mull over WW topics, and sometimes laugh ourselves silly. Other times we revise plans, simply because of something we read at WW, came to understood on the back deck, then came inside to test only to see that the OP (original poster) was indeed correct.
You see kid, it is like this. When you own the business, you don't go home and turn off work. You live, eat, breath and dream work. I perhaps dream work more than others. I wake up with an idea that came to me in a deep sleep, and before the coffee is done dripping some are beginning to take form on pages.
'Work' is subjective. This job consists mostly of the type of work done with the brain, thinking. As long as you are thinking business, you are in reality working. We don't break our backs here. But, just because we don't move around much, doesn't mean we are not working. I have been accused on MANY occassions of not having a 'real' job and being lazy. I love it. My living/working space is immaculate, because I don't just stare at the screen when I am uploading on 3 computers. I use that as an opportunity to do things, like load the dishwasher, clean my desk, load the washing machine, empty the trash, feed the cat... All the while thinking through plans about to unfold (working).
People say, "Ahhhhhh ha! So, you do more than sit at the computer, so how do you work 18 hour days?" I am talking business at the gym, at the market, on the road. My laptop goes with me to the doctor. This business is more about new ideas, creative thought, marketing plans, all that constantly change. One minute I am pressing heavy weights at the gym (5pounds)the next minute something somebody posted in this forum comes clear suddenly, and I am racing home to see if my theory is correct.
You know you have found the right mate, when the mate does the same things as described above, and sometimes you are the one running to keep up as they flee to the car in a rush to test something new out.
When you and your mate are on the same wave length, Adsense earnings grow very quickly.
But...
You have to diversify. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Don't let any one search engine, traffic provider, adserver, or advertiser dominate your revenue. I have over 100 revenue sources, from the little guy who pays me a buck, to Adsense, and everything in between. 99% of my search engine traffic is nearly equally split between the Big Three. My advertising budget is divided among several companys. Your worst case scenario is 90% of your organic traffic coming from Google and 100% of your revenue coming from Adsense.
Look around the forums, and you will find business owners with that exact scenario. Avoid it. In this business YOU are the 50 employees. You wear all their hats. The key is changing them often throughout the day, and while you won't do everything perfect, you do all enough to make it work.
It all works together to create the big picture.
*Takes off her slacker hat, and puts on her Shipping/Receiving hat to greet the Fedex guy who has the new cell phones... gotta run. The 'boss' will be miffed if I miss this delivery* lol
I started adsense in june, made around 50 in july when i knew bit more and added few more content made 150 and in august I might end up some thing around 210 at my current average. But I had this on my website which was 5-6 years old. If I do this fulltime I could make lot more. The reward looks to be surely there, but not sure how long it will be there. I am also trying for other options just to make sure that I dont have all eggs in 1 basket. The trade off is that should I give more time on this or get into more secure benifits which pays me long term. I am also not able to take any firm decesion on this.
I have other affiliates/advertisers too.
I know what you mean about working all the time... I don't spend all my time in front of the comp. but most of the time is focused on my business... I think about it, discuss it, and live it... my hobby has to do with my site, so even going out widgeting it helps to build my site (I can write about it later that day, learn something new, discover something to add to the site, etc.)...
some people think i'm crazy but hopefully this will pay off! It sounds like it does eventually :D
>Does anyone else find this incredibly sad? Yea he >might be able to retire sooner but has wasted so >much of his life getting there. What a waste."
What I find is incredibly sad is somebody who thinks they can slack off for 40 years, work 8 hour days, and then retire at a reasonable comfort level. I don't know about the rest of the world, but that is a pipe dream in the USA. Things have changed in the past 10 years, and those who were enjoying life, got a huge wakeup call. It wasn't pretty. If you read the news, you would know exactly why American small business ecommerce has exploded.
If you are smart, you work your tail off for 5 to 10 years, create a fail-safe safety net, that is not contingent on financial institutions or employers, as they were in the past, and then sit back and enjoy the next 20, 30, 40, or 50 years. Makes perfectly good sense to me.
It never fails to amaze me how a user can read an entire post, or numerous posts by a single poster, and not understand a word of it, save a few, which they quote and demean, out of context.
Show me where I say in this thread anything at all about not living. I see "travel and travel often", sucking up java on the "back deck", and keyboarding in a swimsuit "pool side". Where is your reading comphrension? Or is all that considered not living in your version of life, because I don't mention the pub?
I'm 50. I live life differently than a 20 year old, and I am not a "HE". Where in the world do they name men Janet?
Reading comphrension has gone right down the toilet, not just in the USA, but obvoiusly around the world. Could it be they don't focus on that in the schools any more? Good gravy hold me back. I feel a tantrum coming on, high atop a soap box. Time to walk away. Just walk away JANET.
I guess my biggest question is, is it possible to be making a lot more with Google ads? Like $100 a day or more?
In all seriousness, you will see people posting their monthly pays in ranges on here of $1,000 and up! why do you think I stick our and keep reading?!
what is a realistic goal? How much could I really make with Google AS?
What's the most important thing for me to do?
Diversify.
Yes - do not simply put your faith in Google Adsense. There are plenty legitimate options out there. Dispite all the talk and speculation, I do not believe any of us (unless they are G insiders) really know why sometimes Adsense work, and why sometimes does not.
So, diversify your income channels.
Not worth paying any attention to.
Either study, work, or do something productive with most of your free time... I don't think that is sad at all.
I just turned 19 and am going to spend my 'free' time-- whenever I don't have to work outside (I live on a ranch) or do something else-- working on the computer. I like working!
I will have to study, and I'll take breaks to jog, go outside and care for the animals, read a book, work in the garden, sleep, make cookies, go to a movie, go on the weekends to events, etc... you've got to stay healthy and I find sometimes you get great ideas and get a lot done after you've taken a break, because you come with a frehs brain.
I just think Janet's point was that when you're doing something full-time, you've got to have a desire to do it, and you put all your energy into it, a lot more than if you're working for someone else at something you don't care about.
I don't think janet meant that you actually sit at the computer for 20 hrs straight, without any outside contact... *that* would be sad. I think she meant you're always thinking, always on the lookout for a great tip, a new idea, new content, etc...
I think if you are shooting for $100 a day, from $100 a month, that might be setting yourself up. Yes, it can be done, but why not shoot for say $1,000 a month?
Yes-- my first goal will be to get to, say, $10/day-- then $20, etc... I don't expect to go from $100/month to $100/day right away :)
I guess I need to justify the hours I spend working-- if I know that every page I create now will make me money in the future, I don't feel so crazy staying up late working :)
Currently I do have other advertising, like CJ and also I sell ads etc. -- so all that helps too.
