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"Why did this page about "high paying keyword" only make 7 cents a click?"
How about yours?
They know why they built that page.
I know why they built that page.
You know why they built that page.
Google knows why they built that page.
The advertisers know why they built that page.
So, that's what they think of that page ;)
I think you've just earned the "Best Post of the Month" award. :-)
How about yours?
'I got booted from AdSense'...
and...
'AdSense stats haven't updated in the last 5 minutes... is it broken?'...
plus...
'My AdSense income is unusually low today... so everyone else's must be too'
These three threads seem to surface almost everyday... yet we rehash the same ole thing :)
[edited by: bobothecat at 9:50 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
Ann
Reading through one of the "my earnings are high/low" threads it looks like 90% of the people are experiencing just that. And then a few posts later you find out that half the people with low income just did a major overhaul of their entire site or were dropped from G.
Maybe if they added a voting feature on the left side of the AdSense forum where we could hit a button for higher, lower, or average earnings it would eliminate a lot of these and provide actual information. But that seems kind of ridiculous, because in the end there's only one account in all of AdSense that matters, and that is mine. <snip>
[edited by: Jenstar at 11:17 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
[edit reason] TOS # 24 [/edit]
I know I personally turned off content network ads on our campaigns due directly to the "money grabbing first, quality later" attitude I saw here about a year or two ago. I later realized that was irrational on my part and with a little work was able to get some great results from the content network leads.
1. People who complain about low earnings yet fail to specify whether they're talking about pageviews, CTR, earnings per click, or some combination of these things.
2. Threads started by people with no understanding of statistics in general and especially sample size. By logic, 50% of people here are having a below-average day, so posting that "My stats are low today, anyone else seeing the same thing?" is unlikely to yield valid data for extrapolation.
3. Conspiracy theories based on a sample of one, e.g.: "My earnings have been in the toilet lately, Google must have turned the dial way down to they can meet their Q2 numbers".
4. Threads based on the premise that making money on AdSense is "easy" and how do I get in on this deal?
5. Generally speaking, threads which would drag down the credibility of the AdSense program if read by AdSense advertisers. This would include the seven-cent-click complaint mentioned in the first post. It also include threads about which keywords pay the most, buying dodgy traffic, which is the best software for building scraper sites, etc.
The most famous recent one was the "$14,653.27 for the month of June, 2005" thread.
This thread was started by a first time poster who quickly departed the scene and gave us no information as to the reasons for his "success".
This thread really got the troops riled up - the "cheerleaders" versus the "doubters". Speculation ran rampant - even though there was little solid information to speculate about.
It has apparently finally died a well deserved death after 132 posts.
I can't remember a single piece of useful information that I gained from that thread - except to avoid wasting my time reading similar threads in the future.
Google does not allow ads on gambling sites, porn sites, drugs.... Although these posts are rare, it still bugs me that people want to argue the issue here.
By logic, 50% of people here are having a below-average day, so posting that "My stats are low today, anyone else seeing the same thing?" is unlikely to yield valid data for extrapolation.
Incorrect. There have been days when AS was burping (May 5 springs to mind) and nearly everyone's earnings were way off their averages. Asking is valid because patterns emerge when nearly everyone here is seeing the same phenomenon. If you don't ask that, how could you know either way? I think the "My stats are low, anyone else seeing the same thing?" threads are highly useful in that sense.
Asking is valid because patterns emerge when nearly everyone here is seeing the same phenomenon. If you don't ask that, how could you know either way? I think the "My stats are low, anyone else seeing the same thing?" threads are highly useful in that sense.
Whenever I see a thread with that title, and my earnings are not low, I ignore it. I only bother to read it if I happen to be suffering at the time. Therefore, threads of that nature are skewwed. On any given day there are undoubtedly 100's of publishers having their best ever, and 100's having their worst day in recent memory. I've seen both threads appear in a single day.
I only bother to read it if I happen to be suffering at the time. Therefore, threads of that nature are skewwed.
Again, you can pick up patterns, trends. May 5 is a perfect example. The "My earnings are way too low" thread that ensued was very long and clearly indicated a widespread phenomenon. If you weren't here or don't remember it, ask around. It was very enlightening.
I'll add that this latest round can be pinned on a big SERPs shake-up at Yahoo. Yet again, it was instructive to have a thread about earnings being a lot lower than average.
By logic, 50% of people here are having a below-average day
That's the part that was incorrect. You cannot infer a 50-50 split from the posters in this forum. Tiny sample size. There'll be days when it's skewed heavily one way or the other.
To put it more simply, every day is a below-average day for lots and lots of people. That's why there are so many of these threads and that's why they are almost invariably a waste of time. Stick around here long enough and I guarantee you'll get sick of them too.
'My AdSense income is unusually low today... so everyone else's must be too'
This type of thread begining February saved me and brought me a much higher income.
I thought before only in terms of more content to increase my income.
Reading this and seeing my CPM going also down, I started several page optimizations.
Member 1: Scrapers are a plague that is destroying Adsense!
Member 2: Scrapers are perfectly legit members of Adsense!
Member 3: I'm an Adwords advertiser, and here's my opinion of scrapers.
Member 4: I'm a scraper, and here's my opinion of you jealous losers.
Member 5: Google is a scraper! Google is a scraper!
[Insert boilerplate "Google is/is not a scraper" argument. Rinse, lather, repeat.]
Back to the topic - my own peeve: posts that contain nothing but a derogatory word or name. It's OK for people to criticize strongly, but they should at least explain what they're criticizing and why.
Newbie: What's a scraper?
Member 1: Scrapers are a plague that is destroying Adsense!Member 2: Scrapers are perfectly legit members of Adsense!
Member 3: I'm an Adwords advertiser, and here's my opinion of scrapers.
Member 4: I'm a scraper, and here's my opinion of you jealous losers.
Member 5: Google is a scraper! Google is a scraper!
[Insert boilerplate "Google is/is not a scraper" argument. Rinse, lather, repeat.]
I nominate Curiosity for post of the year :)
