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Contextual algorithm improved?

Finally after a long wait

         

conjo_guam

4:33 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have changed my layout. I have re-worded my text.
I have even performed keyword density analysis. No luck.
For the past 3 months i was bitten by low paying ads and that too completely opposite to what my site is about.

All of a sudden, i see ads, what i have dreamed of for long time. Why did it took so long? Anybody can explain?

Not just one, but all of the ads on 160 X 600 ad unit contain the ads in the area, i really wanted.

Do words in Adsense ad units add upto the keyword density also? Thereby increasing the chances of ads in that caegory?

Or Google improved their contextual algorithm?
They have sent me a lengthy email sometime back about their efforts to improve their contextual algorithm.
They said, my website belongs to a category of websites, where contextual ad technology is not performing well and they are working to improve it.

In anycase, i hope the ads, which are finally showing up, should continue to show up.
Good luck.

europeforvisitors

4:41 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



I've been in the AdSense program since it launched, and the quality of ad targeting has definitely improved over time (at least for my site and my niche). I still see odd mismatches now and then, but the days when a travel article on Munich's Oktoberfest had ads for the "SudsBuddy beer cooler" appear to be over.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you're seeing better ads. Maybe it just takes time for AdSense to determine what some pages are about. I wonder if CTR and/or conversion rates play a role? For example, in the case of my Oktoberfest article, perhaps the AdSense software eventually figured out that beer-cooler ads weren't getting responses and Munich or Germany travel ads were.

wyweb

4:46 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



I have changed my layout. I have re-worded my text.
I have even performed keyword density analysis. No luck.

Do you dance for nickels too? You're adapting to be acceptable/profitable and this almost always comes back to bite you in da butt.

Sorry, not trying to be rude but the idea is to stay the course, not conform to what you think is "google cool"

They said, my website belongs to a category of websites, where contextual ad technology is not performing well and they are working to improve it

I believe that would be your answer... I mean who can elaborate on that? You're in a market where google themselves have admitted there are problems and that's what I'd go with. Asking others for their opinion will only confuse things for you...

conjo_guam

4:46 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ummm That is interesting to know.

Like how adwords have conversion tool, do adsense publishers have a tool to find out, how many clicks are converting to sales?

I think, google will not allow such tool, if it did, then there is a chance that adsense publisher and adword advertiser may slowly have mutual agreement and remove google as middle man.

In anycase, contextual ads still have many bugs and iam glad to see improvements.

Also, google should let adsense publishers know about the bidding amount.

good luck.

wyweb

4:47 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



do adsense publishers have a tool to find out, how many clicks are converting to sales?

No

conjo_guam

4:52 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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wyweb

No doubt you are rude.

Google has proposed to make changes in the text, to get suitable ads. I have an email from google.

I have replied back saying that, "Just for contextual ads, i don't want to loose the context of my site"

To which, they have responded about their contextual algorithm vulnerability.

In any case, i am not making my site a google cool or adsense cool site. It is a complete portal in itself with targetted content and addresses specific category.

Regarding 'Dancing to nickle'

Who doesnot dance for a nickle?
Nickles add upto a dollar and dollards ad upto ....

georgeek

4:53 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They said, my website belongs to a category of websites, where contextual ad technology is not performing well and they are working to improve it.

conjo_guam is it possible for you describe in some way the category they were talking about?

Thanks.

conjo_guam

4:55 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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georgeek,

My site belongs to evite like category and goes beyond that.

wyweb

5:04 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



wyweb
No doubt you are rude.

and some do perceive it as that... I prefer to call it straight talking. I apologize for not having the answers you wanted...

alika

5:09 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you dance for nickels too? You're adapting to be acceptable/profitable and this almost always comes back to bite you in da butt.

It is called adsense optimization in order to maximize revenues. What every publisher should do.

wyweb

5:22 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



It is called adsense optimization in order to maximize revenues. What every publisher should do.

which also gets perverted into "how can I change my site to earn more", a phenomenon I'm frankly pretty sick of.

Again, to each his own.. or hers as the case may be...

alika

5:27 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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how can I change my site to earn more

And is this a bad thing? Who does not want to earn more? That's why we have web analytics software - to help us tweak our pages to improve revenues. That's why we have heatmaps, to understand how customers react to ads in order to earn more. That's why we are here in this forum, to learn how others are doing it (and the mistakes that we need to avoid) in order to earn more.

As long as the changes are within bounds of the TOS, perfectly balanced with the needs of the users, there's nothing wrong in changing anyone's site to earn more.

wyweb

5:29 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



It is called adsense optimization in order to maximize revenues

sheesh...talk about an overworked, often misrepresented, phrase...

sailorjwd

6:24 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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wyweb,

Right on. You stick to your g u n s and don't let anything or anybody influence your content!

I, on the other hand, am a google lady of the evening and will do whatever it takes to make it work... all the way to the bank... back to the beach.