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How to report sites violating the terms?

         

Radejr

9:57 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There is a site I joined a long time ago. Never go to it anymore, but I am still on the forum list. He sent a mass email to everyone telling them to click ads more because the members weren't supporting the site enough. Telling them to click at least 30ads per hour, but no more and they will receive prizes for top 3. I know this is not allowed on google adsense which is what we are using. This is in an email how cna I report this to google adsense? He also has a WAREZ section which he mentions in the email which I think is also not allowed on google adsense.

I don't know if this is also against TOS, but above his ads he put Google Ads doesn't say like Advertisment which is not allowed, but means the same thing wouldn't you think?

Dantol

11:13 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



Make sure to report him to Google.

By cheating advertisers, he is taking money from honest publishers who would earn that money honest way.

Send your email to adsense-abuse@google.com

Radejr

11:24 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thx I reported them and sent a copy of the email to them hopefully they do something about it because thats not right he is going to be making alot of nonlegitimate money.

Radejr

4:46 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How long does it typically take for them to cancel a google account doing these kinda things against TOS?

frox

5:00 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How long does it typically take for them to cancel a google account doing these kinda things against TOS?

alas, very long.
A lot of peope complain about this...

infect

5:14 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This got me wondering though.... if an email from someone is enough to get them banned from adsense, wouldn't uhm, be very very easy to eliminate competition this way? (Not that im suggesting thats what the author is doing, im sure thats not he case - this is (primarily) a white hat crowd).

But it got me worried. It would be so easy for someone to mount a click attack, something small - not huge, just a little, follow it up with an email to google adsense saying look at this email (faked of course) from the "admin" of the site - 'Look, I bet they had people clicking on their ads'. Google checks, sees evidence of click fraud, assumes the email forwarded along was legitimate, and boom, adsense ban, competition gone and, more likely than not, theres no damn way to do a thing about it.

It's so basic, yet so simple and effective, and good luck proving you never sent the email and the click throughs were not ones you requested.

This is the kind of thing that keeps me up at night.

Radejr

6:45 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think they can do anything just from an email, but the site forum has stuff against TOS anyway they just have to go look and find out.

Rodney

6:49 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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if an email from someone is enough to get them banned from adsense, wouldn't uhm, be very very easy to eliminate competition this way?

That's the thing.

An email from someone is not enough to get someone banned from adsense.

You can email all you want, that doesn't mean that you're going to get someone banned from Adsense.

Only Google decides who is banned and who stays.

An email/report to Adsense only sends them a note saying that there might be a violation on a particular site that they should check out and then Google decides what action they want to take (whether it be a simple warning or a deactivation of the account).

JamesR3

5:08 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In this case, the statistics will back up the email. 30 clicks is a LOT, and presumably a distinct change from normal user behavior or he wouldn't be asking them to do it.

So, when Google reviews this email AND sees that the same day several people clicked on 30 ads, whereas no one had ever done that before in the entire history of that publisher's account... I see them getting banned.

Don't forget, Google has a staff of PhD statisticians. They can figure out plenty of things with pretty good certainty that you might not think they could simply because the observed activities are statistically different from what would be expected. If they are SO statistically different that there is virtually no chance that they could have happened randomly, Google will know what is going on.

Radejr

6:51 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm suprised it got taken care of so quickly, but google got to it and took care of it 1 less person trying to cheat the system and take our money so many more to go heh.