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Also, it may not be that difficult to reach 20 million+ content page views a month if you create a "network of partner sites" . I been thinking about this for sometime, I think a few members here can partner with each other to create networks and get a better aproach at working with google and other.
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Any around here?
there are 6 benefits to adsense premium according to google:
What about payment, does the percentage ramains the same?
fellow webmasters to add up the 20.000.000 hits requiered.
Premium account means 1 account, right? Are you suggesting that publishers currently with their own accounts cede their account to 1 entity who will then represent all the publishers who agreed under one account in order to become a premium account? Does this mean, if I go with this plan, that I strip my site of my current Adsense code and replace them with your code just for the possible consideration (and not even sure acceptance even if you reach the min. number required)? So instead of having my own account I simply become a channel of a large account?
I don't think the benefits of a premium publisher is such that I will cancel my account and collude with other publishers to reach the min. goal
therefore you have the practical problem of coordinating between a large number of publishers.
aside from the unpracticality... i would never do something like this unless it was explicitly blessed by google, which i doubt would ever happen.
The purpose would be to eventually gain more traffic for all member sites through "cross-marketing" techniques, and to promote better quality content. Forget about the supposed benefits of being a "super publisher"... I see a chance to fry BIGGER fish!
In effect, I envision an "alliance of publishers" with content which compliments each others web site, Furthermore, it would sort of serve somewhat as a "quality control" mechanism, as the member publishers would adhere to a "higher standard" of publishing ethics, and help to differentiate them from those dubious sites of "lesser quality." By this I don't mean to denigrate those with lesser coding skills or sites that have blossomed out of hobbies. I am point blank singling out SCRAPER sites,,, as in "we won't accept you" into our publishers' network.
Then, if they are so inclined, the SCRAPER sites can ban together and form THEIR own publishers network. Of course, because of the nature of the beast, they probably wouldn't want to interlink with anyone else because they are only intent on making as much money for themselves - quality of content be damned.
So if this concept were to be implemented, Adwords Advertisers would be able to "allocate their resources" more effectively. They would be able to identify the various publisher networks they wish to place their Google AdSense ads on, and the ones they wouldn't invest a single cent of their advertising budget on.
So logic would dictate that in the long run... only the web sites with quality content would be attracting the better paying Advertisers, and the SCRAPER sites would end up with those advertisers with shoestring budgets (if THEY would even want to advertise on the SCRAPER sites).
So perhaps this notion could turn into a VERY positive development for the entire AdSense program... sort of like "self-imposed policing" of content quality... who would want to associate THEIR web sites with web sites of dubious quality? I venture to say not even those that produce such base quality sites would relish the thought of linking together with other content-challenged web sites!
Of course everyone's notion of "quality web site content" differs, so if this concept were to move forward I would imagine that many publisher networks would form as like-minded & principled web publishers allied.
I would be all for joining such a network with the "right kind" of publishers, and I wouldn't consider myself as "only a small time publisher" like one of the posters speculated this concept would attract. Of course, I'm not a BIG time publisher either, but I earned over $5,000 last month from Google.
Any every account in the network would be at risk
one bad apple . ..
NOT A "CLICKING RING" or any other type of low-browed behavior. I wouldn't accept such deviance as member of any publisher network that I would wish to participate in!
Historically reciprocal linking has been a hallmark of Net marketing. I'm just advocating the "like-minded" publishers should be much more "selective" with what sites to link with... and refuse ALL links to "those lesser types" of web sites...
I think this notion is making a LOT of scraper site owners VERY nervous...
I believe it is for a single site, or a very closely related network of sites. Not just a "let's all pool together to get 20 million page views so we can get premium status".
Consider 20-30 high volume sites do more than pool together, they form an LLC or something, totally above board, and put their sites into the corporation as the assets. I'm just not sure the couple of extra percentage points would be worth all the trouble to incorporate and the associated headaches.
However, creating some form of co-op might have an upside being able to obtain cheap group insurance, 401K plans, and other benefits that individuals would find more difficult or costly to obtain.
No I mean a NEW account is created for the Network. Hello Google we are XYZ network with 20.000.000 hits a month, please setup us up a premium account. Each member of the network is got a channel and access to the account. No need to put at risk your "personal" adsense accounts.
About bad apples, lets just make sure the right people gets in.
I think you're just sold on the word "premium" without any evidence that there significant advantages to being in this club. If one were to do this, it would probably make more sense to approach Overture and join their network.
yes, overture or any other. The networks just gives you a sharper edge.
The purpose would be to eventually gain more traffic for all member sites through "cross-marketing" techniques, and to promote better quality content. Forget about the supposed benefits of being a "super publisher"... I see a chance to fry BIGGER fish!
love your ideas alwaysthinking
I think this notion is making a LOT of scraper site owners VERY nervous...
However, what about advancing this aspect another step forward by proposing that Google itself create some sort of coop to facilitate participating publishers in obtaining economical group health care & whatnot? Perhaps they could even get the healthcare provider and/or the insurance provider to structure it so Google's employees were also included (perhaps at higher levels of coverage), as to effect lowering of employee healthcare as the "risk" would be distributed over a much larger group and thereby lower per-head coverage costs.
I think Google so look more closely into the possibility of implementing this kind of more "creative compensation incentives" that may be afforded by leveraging the sheer numbers of publishers (might as well open it up to Adwords Advertisers too), as a marketing advantage for their program. How could any competitor try to gain market-share on Google's program when so many are dependent upon Google not only for X amount of income, but also their health coverage too?
The consequences of such intimate dependencies should cause those participants that have been operating in the "grey area" or worse, to reconsider their wayward activates and clean up their acts to assure many years of success for Google's advertising program.
It's all about risk & rewards... One must make the rewards for good behavior appear to significantly outweigh that for misbehaving, in order for even the THICKEST of skulls to comprehend the benefit of adhering to Google AdSense TOS. (without whimsical justifications for their lower standards of publication).
linuxguy - thank you for the compliment. However, I was just building on the groundwork that you initially laid. I would have never put forward my 2 cents if you did not offer a similar notion with this thread.
I believe that it will be the free exchange of ideas amongst those publishers & advertisers that are truly concerned about maintaining the quality of AdSernse program to help improve upon Google's fledgling ad program, by helping to "rein-in" some of the "more wayward" ones amongst us. Google representatives read these threads and they certainly cull out any good ideas they may find for possible action upon. So I believe in lobbing out ideas... as you never know which ones might actually stick.
