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desperado117

7:44 am on Jul 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Today morning when I saw it in my inbox I thought it's a dream or somebody's joke. But it was reality and it was from Google:

<snip standard 'invalid clicks' termination email>

I have the proxy site.

I know the proxy theme is very slippery ground, too much worthless people use proxies (btw like the windows).

But I'd like to say that I play honest games and I'm not so stupid to be dishonest with Google. Many people in the world know my site. And it is the result of my job of 4 years. And Google knows it. Type "proxy" in Google and you will see me site on the first place.

Will any man of sense risk of reputation of popular site?

Any popular internet resource has its enemies. I guessed that they or at least one of them will try to kill my google account by clicker programs/scripts. But I thought all it are "children trick" and the Google is not so ignorant to take seriously such provocations...

So what have I do now to obtain justice?

Of course there are other PPC programs in the world. But I'd like to clear up the mess with Google Ansense and defending the right and my good name.

Help me, please!

ASA, help!

[edited by: Jenstar at 9:09 am (utc) on July 8, 2005]
[edit reason] No email quotes or personal information, as per TOS [/edit]

desperado117

6:12 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I guess making your site navigation look like an AdSense block is OK.

No, the navigation on my site is very simple and does not look like an AdSense block.

Guys, what site all you investigate? :)

jomaxx

6:19 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm looking at an archive of your site from last fall, not the current version. For my part it is a Russian site I'm looking at, so I think I have the correct one.

desperado117

6:51 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, jomaxx in that case you are right.

Fryman

6:52 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nice to see Google doing their job and cleaning up the house...

desperado117

6:57 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nice to see Google doing their job and cleaning up the house...

Thank you Fryman, for the wormest words. Nice to see such kind man in Google's house.

zipit

7:54 pm on Jul 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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desperado117:

If you run the site in first place under a search of "proxy" there are a couple of other issues I see.

You run a .ru domain. Google might have chosen you for a high risk area for deactivation after reviewing your traffic.

Second, your forums (or the link to your forums) if you run that site as well, you have a second google account as the google ads are still running on the forums. The way you make the link look, it appears that the sites are run by the same person/company.

I have visited your site many times. I developed some proxy checking scripts and used some of the proxies you list. They do serve a purpose.

I can certainly see where google might have a problem with a site like yours. 99% of your visitors are probably running anonymous proxies. That means the majority of your google clicks are from proxies and those proxies could be used elsewhere for click fraud and have been "tagged" by google.

Do you do also own the forum site as well? If so, is that your google account/ads running on it?

Jesse_Smith

1:24 am on Jul 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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desperado117, let me translate for you what Fryman said...

Nice to see Google doing their job and cleaning up the house...

In your language, that says 'Thank you Google for geting rid of these affiliates that scam those that pay to have there site listed through AdWords . desperado117's site de-frauds AdWord users, so thank you got banning that account. Keep banning more affilites just like this one.'

THAT'S what he said! I don't think you want to thank him! Yes, those are worm words, because you got fried by the Google man!

desperado117

7:44 am on Jul 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Jesse, my boy, let me tell you that I understand quite good what men like you and Fryman mean by all they said here. So good as I see why you can not understand why man says "thank you" in reply to scurrilous things. So thanks again this time to you for your wormest words.

And DO NOT USE PROXY!:))) Never!

Nice people I met here.

Nevertheless, I'd like to say thanks for the replies. Special thanks to kartiksh, mvander, elsewhen, Dantol, jomaxx.

The question is settled for me.

Alioc

9:40 am on Jul 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think zipit has explained it very well. It's indeed very logical that desperado's account might be cancelled just because his audience is using proxies and proxy clicks raise the red flag. Now if that's true, is he guilty? NO! There's no need to be prejudiced to all account cancellation posts. It may happen to you too one day; even if you think it's impossible. You'll have no one to explain then.

zipit

8:03 pm on Jul 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think desperado117 was scamming anyone. I have used the proxy checker tool that he offers on his site and see nothing wrong with putting google ads on the same page. However, I believe that GOOGLE sees something wrong with it as if the people using the tools to check out their anonymous proxy (to see if it works) and then clicking on one of his ads.

It's one of those grey areas. He doesn't use any wording like "click on my ads" or incentives or anything that is a clear violation and the content of his site is very good in my opinion. I have a tool very similar to his for over a year and it's been running google as well. Now this issue makes me think twice.

I believe that it could be the nntime forums that are connected to the .ru site (proxy checker) site. Since it is running google (still, right now) that means two accounts are being used. Are they two separate people? desperado117 didn't answer me, but let's assume it is since it's also "officially" two different domains.

desperado117 I am sorry that violations occurred and you lost your google account. I like your site and hope you can find another means to fund it. You HAVE to had worked hard to get it in the #1 spot for proxy. I wish I had that spot for my site.

wolverin

2:25 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are countries, indeed organisations and large isp's too, which have proxies forced upon them... so there's no escaping a transparent proxy (non anonymous).. and web access all appears as coming from a single proxy ip.

are those bad too? From what you say it would seem so.
But I don't think so, I think Google understands the difference...

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