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First $300 Day With Adsense

Here's what's working for me...

         

kokaroach

10:55 pm on Jun 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Amidst all the doom and gloom of late, I'm proud to say that this is shaping up to be my first ever $300 day with the Google Adsense program.

After reading some of the posts here at the WW adsense forum regarding the amount of ads on pages being related to EPC, yesterday I went and removed one low performing ad unit from about 3000 pages on one of my best sites (easy to do when you use php includes).

Guess what... CTR dropped a little, traffic was the same, but EPC increased immediately - so I removed a few more of the underperforming ad units. EPC went up again.

Then late last night I said "To He! with it" and went so far as to switch from the 336X280 which displays 4 ads, to the 250X250 square which displays 3. I also tweaked my css so the font size for the surrounding text is exactly the same as that of the ads. I went to bed.

Now, with 8 hours left in the "Google Day," my earnings are at $265 and going strong.

I only have one 3-ad block in the middle of the content above the fold on about 3500 pages, and one Adlinks block in the upper left of my nav bar on that particular site.

I'm going to wait this out til the end of June and if the results of these changes are fairly consistent I'm going to roll it out across my entire network of sites.

Of course, like anything Google, this may not last but it's a major milestone for me. It's one of those things you want badly but it's always a little out of reach.

$300 every day is a huge incentive to keep writing content, and enough to buy a lot of painkillers for the resulting carpel tunnel problems. LOL

So here's what's working for me, for today at least ->> Less ads per page. Who woulda thunk it?

K

incrediBILL

2:42 am on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How many people in here lies that they made $300 or more a day from Adsense in this room?

I don't exactly see what anyone would get for lying about what they make here unless being the BMOC (big man on campus) is that big of a deal. The last laugh is when they deposit that check far below what they claim it is as it's hard to lie to the bank :)

I'm not hitting $200/day, I'm scraping at it every day just a few dollars short, Google hates me. I'll break $4500 easy, maybe $5000, but I'm working hard to break this $200/day hurdle. $300 will be the goal for the next 2 months as I'm hell bent for UPS/DHL/FEDEX club or whatever it will be called in 6 months as my own Xmas present!

Good thing Google is just a portion of my site income, ever growing but not the only source.

If it's not been said in this thread yet DIVERSIFY! While some struggle with Google alone I have multiple programs growing at the same time. If one increases while the other decreases it offsets the loss. If both increase, you just smile and cash the checks.

'Nuff said

hyperkik

1:13 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm not hitting $200/day, I'm scraping at it every day just a few dollars short, Google hates me.

I feel for you. If I were to venture that if your CPC were the same as a year ago, you would be well into the UPS club, would I be correct?

Naveenn

1:39 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Congrats to the thread starter.

It's difficult for me to reach that figure for total of entire month given that I've a site with 10K+ visitors/day

OptiRex

1:54 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)



Google hates me.

Not half as much as it hates me!

My earnings are wayyyyyyyyy down and I've done nothing wrong, I've even tried the removal of ads and all that happened, except for one day's very suspicious figures, was that my earnings and EPC have gone down even further.

Whatever happened on 05/05/05 has completely destroyed my belief and faith in Google and the sooner there is some credible competition to them the better.

How is it possible to believe them when their figures and mine do not tally whatsoever...they can't even make the earnings tally with THEIR channel stats!

Someone's creaming me and Google won't listen however I'm pretty sure we all know who's doing it since so many are complaining of the same situation.

incrediBILL

2:28 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I feel for you. If I were to venture that if your CPC were the same as a year ago, you would be well into the UPS club, would I be correct?

Not at all, surprisingly my average CPC at the end of the day has always between about $0.15-$0.20. I still see ads paying $0.80 and more now and then but when the end of the day tally hits the $0.03 ads round it all down.

For my site it always seems to be a function of traffic so if I you want roughtly $100/day extra it seems I need 5000-7000 more visitors a day and that's what I'm working on.

Sally Stitts

2:43 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sweet Cognac,
I GIVE UP!
I put back all the 336x280s.
My CTR is STILL dropping.
Something is very weird here.
There are many knobs that G can tweak.
I'm starting to wonder if "Clicks" isn't one of them.

After all, payout varies from 20% to 60%.
Why not "vary" clicks from 70 to 100% of actual?
Why not? There is zero accountability.

sirkei

6:38 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ok. Here is my case after switching from 335 to 250 ad box.

First day, clicks and ctr do not increase much. But earnings increase a bit.

Second day, clicks decrease and ctr decreases. eCPM increases like 7% and earnings increase quite a lot. Thought the high paying ads are coming in. Freaking happy.

third day, clicks decrease somemore. ctr also decreases. earning is way down than the first day. dissapointing.

fourth day, clicks decrease a bit. ctr almost the same as the fourth day. and earnings almost the same or lower.

So i guess this tweaking of ad unit size may boost up your earning for a while but when "smart pricing" or whatever algo is called kicks in, you are down to normal.

So, in my opinion, tweak your ad size as often as possible. I will try this after today when the earnings are still the same and let you guys know the results.

Eltiti

7:09 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sally:

There is zero accountability.

I don't think Google would do a thing like that. While lowering the payout percentage is unpleasant for the publisher, it is well within Google's rights to do so.

What you're describing would amount to outright lying IMO --and why would they do that?

If you don't trust G (or any affiliate merchant), you may want to reconsider doing business with them in the first place!

ShunT

1:29 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I believe "lowering payout rates" is a misconsception of Ad blindness.

I read about these sites that have been around for 2 years and their adsense revenue keeps dropping; Change the layout, change the color, change the placement. TV isn't the only source of advertising that suffers from ad blindness.

OptiRex

1:54 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



TV isn't the only source of advertising that suffers from ad blindness.

Correct, except for many sites it is the visitor's first experience.

One thing above all that Adsense allows the publisher is to blend/configure the ads to the site.

It varies immensely from site to site how this is accomplished, some do it very well, some (many), do it very badly.

I read about these sites that have been around for 2 years and their adsense revenue keeps dropping; Change the layout, change the color, change the placement.

2 years!?

Don't try and take the p*$$ ShunT...just wait until you have a problem and start to wonder what's gone wrong!

ShunT

3:10 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It really depends on what kind of site you have and how many returning visitors you have. But if you do have a high return visitor rate keeping the same ad layout is suicide.

Sure if you're doing fine after 2 years with the same layout keep it. But I'm talking about the "ever decreasing revenue" some sites experience.

ann

6:08 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nope, MSN could not be the reason for the continuing climb in visitors to the main site but Yahoo is sending a lot more than before. Seems I am in the top ten on Yahoo...at least earlier today, LOL.

Google never has ranked my smaller site very well and hardly ever see traffic from them to it. Being front and center on 2 scraper pages probably got it a penalty for dupe content since they took my whole front page...word for word. BUT today I got the one in the US closed down yippieeeee, now I have to figure out what to do about the one in China or Japan?

I have rewritten 90% of the page but who knows. in Google it went from 40 to 51 today...:(

thank God my original site is doing well.

Ann

syed

4:56 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yea, me too. My sites gets about 800,000 Hits and about 10,000 Unique Vistors a day and I make about $6-$10/Day. I think I will just sell Ad Space. With Alexa rank of 45,000, I hope it wont be difficult to sell.

Could anyone help me out with my site? Change the layout or something - I am ready to pay if it works.

incrediBILL

10:52 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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and about 10,000 Unique Vistors a day and I make about $6-$10/Day

Depending on the topic, type of site and AdSense targetting I'm not sure why you aren't hitting $100/day with 10K uniques. With your numbers you must be getting a 2% (or less) CTR and averaging $0.05 CPC, not good.

Sweet Cognac

1:37 am on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sally, I was just thinking how much Google reminds me of a "Roller Coaster" ride. Up and Down, up and down, and all we can do is hang on and (try to) enjoy the ride.

Ever notice while the roller coaster is going up (money), the excitement builds... then you're on top for several split seconds... and then swoosh... going downhill again and screaming the whole way down?

At the end of the ride (each update), Google might make you get off and stand in line again (lose rank), or let you ride again for free, or ... you might have to pay to ride again (Adwords.)

Plus everybody tries to be first in line, so they can sit in the front, even if they sneak in line (scrapers).

(Geez... now Google even goes to the carnival with me.) :(

Alioc

5:16 pm on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sweet! and true.
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