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What are Google up to?

why the big difference

         

seowisdom

12:54 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On Thursday one of our sites received 26 clicks on the home page, and 18 clicks on sub-pages, for total revenue of $180

Yesterday, 20 clicks on the home page and 10 clicks on sub-pages generated total $16

What crazy things are Google doing now? I still have the impression that any company or site that gets successful is quickly scaled-back by Google!

Is that paranoia or do we have clear eveidence?

OptiRex

1:31 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



$180 for 44 clicks!

$4.09 per click, you're joking?

If you have a problem with that send them my way and I'd also be very happy with 30 clicks and $16 at USD 0.53 per click.

Roadkill

1:34 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I fail to see the problem. Sounds like your sitting pretty to me.

ken_b

1:36 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Most likely what happened is that some advertizer dumped some big dollar ads into the system, quickly ran through their budget, and either dropped their ads, dropped thier bids, or more likely opted out of the content site network.

Zygoot

1:42 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You were very lucky on Thursday.

And by the way $0.53 per click is still way above average.

Broadway

1:52 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see fluctuations with my day to day and month to month earnings, although not as dramatic as you've demonstrated.

I'm a beliver that most fluctuations are due to advertisers and their budgets waxing and waning. But as long as Adsense won't share any information with us regarding specifics about what our cut is based on they will always leave themselves open to speculation and critcism about not running a fair game.

sailorjwd

2:16 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Adsense is like a box o chocolates...

Just be thank full you have a topic that has $4 click capability. They'll likely rotate in and out. Yesterday I was getting $xx clicks then $0.xx clicks on the same page back and forth all day.

If you can get 20 more topics that act in a similar way then things will even out and revenue won't be so bumpy.

Jenstar

2:40 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps on Thursday you also had some CPM income mixed in there with the per click earnings.

zulufox

3:07 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Fear my $0.10 clicks!

clay15

3:52 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I get 7 cents per click and that's only on good days!

ownerrim

4:30 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Adsense is like a box o chocolates..."

Sometimes the chocolates taste good, and sometimes all you want to do is spit the stuff out.

seowisdom

11:04 am on May 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No I'm not complaining about $180 for 44 clicks. I dream of days like that... but it is one of the major $high niches, where we've put major work into building, optimizing, promoting the site and getting lots of incoming links.

But I do have a problem with the following day, a slightly smaller number of clicks getting 10% of the revenue! I really do think it's a problem with Google, though there's a possibility of an advertiser dumping their budget in one day as someone suggested.

I'll update on what happens over the next week.

JuniorOptimizer

11:23 am on May 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's very frustrating dealing with the "blind payout". My opinion, which can't be proved, is that on certain days, Google keeps a lot more of the money that usual. This way, they get a lot more profit.

ann

1:22 pm on May 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe we can blame it on the "dance" going on now.

asianguy

1:53 pm on May 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



seowisdom, how did you get $180 for 44 clicks?

what did you do legally?

seowisdom

8:39 am on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it was entirely legal! Actually 44 clicks is tiny compared to some sites that can get 1000+ clicks in a day (though usually for cents per click)

$180/44 = $4 per click Many niches have advertisers paying more than $8 per click, so if you assume a 50% payout, that's how the numbers work.

Usually for such high value niches there's a lot of competition, and that's where seo skills allow you to successfully compete for traffic.

spaceylacie

8:44 am on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"that's where seo skills allow you to successfully compete for traffic"

I don't believe Google rewards good SEO skills much, many times they consider it spam, even if you have good intentions. It's sad, I know.

arubicus

9:04 am on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"I don't believe Google rewards good SEO skills much, many times they consider it spam, even if you have good intentions. It's sad, I know. "

Whether you black hat spam or white hat SEO the intent is pretty much the same! To get listed as high up in the SERPS as possible and making as much bling as you can.

spaceylacie

9:14 am on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, so everyone gets lumped together, black hatters with scraped results, and SEOs trying to get the exposure they think they deserve.

Many SEOs don't realize how much competition they really have. Do they really think their site is better than the other 50 million in their niche?

When you get to a good site, you know it, everyone knows it, that site gets visitors. White hat SEOs, black hatters, all trying to get a piece of the pie....