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1)High paying ads keep rotating in different add units. So stop complaining of days with less income. Try to display 2 or more add units(Horizontal, vertical, rectangular etc) and u can see stability in your income. Go for channels, you will know your website better.
2) Try to concentrate on the content specifically in the area, your website is all about. Donot run after high paying keywords. If they happen to be in your area, you are lucky. Refine, re-refine the content, your adsense ads get better abd better and you will see higher CPC week by week. This has happened to me and today, iam receiving clicks which are worth $3-$4.
3) Adding search engine is a boon. But placing it, so that users will actually use it is a time consuming process. Once done, this pays of handsomely. It took me 3 days, to figure out that and iam getting rewarded for that already.
4) Don't think of quitting jobs on adsense money. Simply it doesn't MAKESENSE. Don't fall for high paying keyword databases and also ads, which say $20 keyword, $100 keyword. They are not true. High paying keywords are seasonal and only appear few times a year.
Thanks and you guys can add your experience too.
It would be really nice if you will see those 3-4 bucks clicks after 1-2 months - in this time Smart Pricing will start working with your account
(now it is just averaging data on your sites).
But I really doubt on it.
Nevertheless - good luck with your attitude.
It should help when EPC drops 5 times. :)
Having said the above, I do agree with your post :)
[edited by: petra at 11:55 am (utc) on May 20, 2005]
25 days is tooo little a time to come to any conclusion. But number of channels helped me to come to this initial conclusion.
Something about smart pricing.
People say smart pricing will be coming soon. Few others say, it is already there. Iam confused about this topic.
Again, just work on your website, what you want to achieve through it. Don't alter your plans for the sake of Adsense. I don't care, if smart pricing is there or is going to hit me sooner or later.
I am interested, if my users get what they want. Rest will be taken care of automatically.
Thanks for your warnings and wishes.
I appreciate your post. Multi-dollar subjects are there by the boat-load and they don't all need to go away because of smart-pricing if you do smart-publishing. Every other day I see subjects go from 15cent clicks to 6-8 $ clicks on a rotation basis.
The only thing i disagree with is point #4. If I work at my day job I only get something like 50cents on a dollar due to all the various taxes. ROI is much better writing new content because it pays day after day.
But then again I only have 15 months in Adsense.
And, yes, ROI is much better with Adsense than a regular job where you just get paid once for your work. With Adsense, you can spend a week on new content, then get paid for it week after week after week....
I never have complained of days with less income and while I have experimented with the entire range of possible ad units, placement, number of, colors, etc... I have yet to see any long term stability in my income.
You've been with adsense for 25 days (and by the way - welcome). I assure you it is far, far too soon to be making any definitive statements re: what you may or may not be in store for in the long haul. I started in Feb 2004 and something still happens at least once a month that blows my my little basket of well thought theories right out of the water.
I'm with you on channels though. Incredibly useful tool.
Yes, content is king and smart publishing is the way to go to make some decent money.
Working on improving content is never ending process. You cannot say, i will work on it for 2 weeks and get benefits for the next 12 months.
Working on online project is fun and people forget or ignore ,number of hours they have spent. For most of the publishers, if you average out, ROI is not that attractive considering the instability with adsense.
Going forward, conversion rate for the advertisors will be deciding factor. Depending on that rate, there will be different pricing for different publishers.
Also, going forward, its not CTR alone, but number of impressions for an Ad and popularity of the website, should decide the price. Even if advertisor is not getting good conversion rate, he may be getting needed popularity. So, he should pay for that.
What i want as a publisher is
1) money for impressions
2) Money for clicks
3) Money for the actual business done with cookies set for 90 days.
All these options should be available for each ad unit.
Sometimes, yes you can, but I do agree that in most cases it's a never ending process.
I have quite a few sites that were 2 week projects that I haven't touched since, nor do I need to since it's just straight how-to information. Those sites will keep making money for the next 12 months, hits are going up and up as people are finding the site, referring friends, etc.
Thats good to know. Good luck.
Working on online project is fun and people forget or ignore ,number of hours they have spent. For most of the publishers, if you average out, ROI is not that attractive considering the instability with adsense.
Have you heard the impression if you love what you do you'll never work a day in your life?
Well I love what I do and am ready to do it for free, getting paid for it is a bonus ;)
Well the thing is 100,000 people a day are looking for most of the $10 per click keywords, that is part of the reason that they're $10 (or whatever) per click - scarcity, and of course profit margin.
I have a broad mix of sites - the 3, 5 and 10 cent per clicks put bread on the table, and are extremely stable earners - the multiple dollar per click terms fluctuate wildly, but pay well when they get traffic.
How do u plan on living, if you are ready to do it for Free?
the 3, 5 and 10 cent per clicks put bread on the table, and are extremely stable earners - the multiple dollar per click terms fluctuate wildly, but pay well when they get traffic.
Precisely!
....are NOT looking for...
:p
Now it's not anywhere near my top earner, and I've removed most links to it.
Yes, I agree, my penny sites are the stable ones.
How do u plan on living, if you are ready to do it for Free?
I get paid well from adsense, not enough to quit my day job just yet, but soon :)
1)High paying ads keep rotating in different add units. So stop complaining of days with less income. Try to display 2 or more add units(Horizontal, vertical, rectangular etc) and u can see stability in your income.
Well - not sure I agree with this. Google say that they will target the highest paying ads top - a reason to drive up bid prices. They don't suddenly replace high paying ads with low paying ones for the sake of rotation. If you want the top spot on banners, you have to bid accordingly.
Secondly, there is a problem with multiple blocks on the same page. If all units don't convert, then smartpricing will knock back what you earn on the ad blocks that do convert. There are quite a few testimonials to this in this forum (including mine).
If ads don't work for you, then dump 'em! As you rightly say, you need to use channels to work this out.
I think most of us here know that adsense is a rollercoaster ride - glad you realise this :) it helps - honestly!
